Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 22.07 14:46, Randy Bush wrote: ... the TTL issue is almost entirely NS RRs, ... of course, almost all date in the gtlds are NS RRs, so the worry about TTL crank-down holds, though just for silly gtld servers. then again, they're paid to serve. This assumes rational behavior of a lot of

ICANN Adds IPv6 to Root DNS

2004-07-23 Thread John Obi
It's IPv6 time. http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3384791 Thanks, -J __ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Paul Vixie
I welcome the change. so do i. but more importantly, i agree with daniel that the next thing that's going to happen as a result is that there will be pressure toward lower ttl's. and i further agree with daniel that lower ttl's would be bad. so, let's increase dynamicism of domain addition,

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Paul Vixie
because i have sometimes been accused of being unfair to markk, i checked. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Kosters) writes: the primary beneficiaries of this new functionality are spammers and other malfeasants, I think this is a true statement. Has anyone done any studies to prove this

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Cox
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:27:37 -1000 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | all they need to do is register foo.bar with delegation to their | dns servers, and change a third level domain name at will. Er, no. They have of course tried that already! By registering foo.bar with delegation to

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Petri Helenius
Paul Vixie wrote: so do i. but more importantly, i agree with daniel that the next thing that's going to happen as a result is that there will be pressure toward lower ttl's. and i further agree with daniel that lower ttl's would be bad. so, let's increase dynamicism of domain addition, but

The Cidr Report

2004-07-23 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 23 21:40:01 2004 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Christian Kuhtz
On 7/23/04 5:29 AM, Richard Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:27:37 -1000 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | all they need to do is register foo.bar with delegation to their | dns servers, and change a third level domain name at will. Er, no. They have of

RE: Enterprises indicate plans for MPLS VPN use

2004-07-23 Thread Paul Gilbert
I did a lot of work on MPLS and the enterprises last year while I was at Cisco and got some different conclusions: Enterprises are not really turned on by full mesh almost all of their stuff is hub and spoke, even the VOIP. QOS was not a big thing and it wasn't clear that MPLS added anything

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel Senie
At 10:05 AM 7/23/2004, Christian Kuhtz wrote: On 7/23/04 5:29 AM, Richard Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:27:37 -1000 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | all they need to do is register foo.bar with delegation to their | dns servers, and change a third level domain

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Paul Vixie
... so, let's increase dynamicism of domain addition, but let's please not also increase dynamicism of delegation change and domain deletion. What would be your suggestion to achieve the desired effect that many seek by lower TTL's, which is changing A records to point to available, lower

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
I don't want to digress into a spam-l or asrg standard thread, but I do want to point out the similarity of what I think are ad networks that manage sets of write-engines (aka zombies) in the blog-spam (http) problem space with the canonical abuse-desk/xdsl swamp meta-thread on nanog. I'm

that MIT paper again (Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net )

2004-07-23 Thread Paul Vixie
i'd said: wrt the mit paper on why small ttl's are harmless, i recommend that y'all actually read it, the whole thing, plus some of the references, rather than assuming that the abstract is well supported by the body. someone asked me: Would you happen to have the URL for the MIT paper?

Weekly Routing Table Report

2004-07-23 Thread Routing Table Analysis
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 24 Jul, 2004

Re: T1 short-haul vs. long-haul

2004-07-23 Thread Christopher Woodfield
I think we can probably chalk this up to a difference in dialect, for lack of a better word...what you're calling an NIU is exactly what I would call a smartjack and vice versa. Can you point to any sort of official documentation that defines these? I'm looking to see if anyone in my office

Re: T1 short-haul vs. long-haul - jack terminology

2004-07-23 Thread Christopher Woodfield
OK, from my reading in Newton's Telecom Dictionary, it appears that NIU is a generic term for whatever the customer plugs their cable into, be it a powered or a dumb device. Mea culpa. However, the writeup on smart jack reads, in part: ...installed on the premises as a semi-intelligent

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Randy Bush
so, let's increase dynamicism of domain addition, but let's please not also increase dynamicism of delegation change and domain deletion. dear customer, you can have wheat bread today, but rye takes a day. here is a url which explains the reasons in obscure technical terms. right; bloody

Re: that MIT paper again (Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net ) (longish)

2004-07-23 Thread Simon Waters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:01:54 + | From: Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: that MIT paper again (Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net ) | |wrt the mit paper on why small ttl's are harmless, i recommend that |y'all actually read

Re: that MIT paper again (Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net ) (longish)

2004-07-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:30:46 BST, Simon Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think relying on accurate DNS information to distinguish spammers from genuine senders is at best shakey currently, the only people I can think would suffer with making it easier and quicker to create new domains would

RE: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Brian Battle
Petri Helenius wrote: What would be your suggestion to achieve the desired effect that many seek by lower TTL's, which is changing A records to point to available, lower load servers at different times? On a similar note (and not viewing the issue through the usual spam-colored glasses):

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Matt Larson
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: the primary beneficiaries of this new functionality are spammers and other malfeasants It appears your glass is half empty rather than half full. The primary beneficiaries are all current and future .com/.net domain holders: timely and predictable zone

RE: T1 short-haul vs. long-haul

2004-07-23 Thread Michel Py
Christopher Woodfield wrote: I think we can probably chalk this up to a difference in dialect, for lack of a better word...what you're calling an NIU is exactly what I would call a smartjack and vice versa. Can you point to any sort of official documentation that defines these?

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread Duane Wessels
If a zone owner lowers a TTL and causes an increase in load, most of the foot being shot off is his or her own: the zone's own name servers will bear the brunt of the increased query load. Maybe, but don't forget that when BIND9 and DJBDNS caches find expired nameserver address (A) records

Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

2004-07-23 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Duane Wessels wrote: Maybe, but don't forget that when BIND9 and DJBDNS caches find expired nameserver address (A) records they don't trust any cached data and start them back at the roots. And in the case of BIND9, it sends both A and A6 queries for each nameserver in

Re: T1 short-haul vs. long-haul - jack terminology

2004-07-23 Thread Forrest W. Christian
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Christopher Woodfield wrote: OK, from my reading in Newton's Telecom Dictionary, it appears that NIU is a generic term for whatever the customer plugs their cable into, be it a powered or a dumb device. Mea culpa. ... ...installed on the premises as a semi-intelligent