Bora Akyol wrote:
Kazaa, Gnutella, ...
Without getting stuck in the specifics, is there a change
in usage patterns and bandwidth requirements with
the current gen P2P services?
The late developments seem to favour BitTorrent at the expense of KaZaa
and eDonkey, while DC/DC++ keeps it's user bas
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ca.us>, Michel Py <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai.
Me neither. Although I had it for a while I downloaded it from the
Microsoft web site again twice today (did not bother to look where it
resolved), from home and office, and i
Joe Johnson wrote:
All this hit here in Illinois when the Super DCMA took effect, and it
technically became illegal to use a router in your home (as the Illinois
DCMA restricts the ability to hide the source or destination of any
electronic communication, kinda like NAT). I certainly didn't pull N
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I thought it was standard best practice for availability, like for
root name servers. I thought it was not a good "closest server"
selection mechanism, as you'll be going to the closest server as
determined by BGP - which may have little relationship to
> Steven Susbauer wrote:
> I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai.
Me neither. Although I had it for a while I downloaded it from the
Microsoft web site again twice today (did not bother to look where it
resolved), from home and office, and it came each time in less than 15
minutes for th
folks,
looking to continue the week which has
been going strong so far with no mention of gmail, verisign and bad
analogies, i have these questions i'm hoping someone can chime in
on:
* any good/bad experiences with force10 gear in
general?
* thoughts on usage in a relatively simple
mul
Gee whiz!
IMP #5 went to BBN; #6 to MIT; #7 to RAND; #8 to SDC;
#9 to Harvard; IMP #10 went to Lincoln Lab in Oct., 1970;
#11 went to Stanford U.
Peter
Sorry, Karl.
IMP #2 went into Englebart at SRI; IMP #3 to UC-Santa Barbara;
IMP #4 to University of Utah. That was it in 1969: a four-note
ARPAnet.
Peter
If anybody is currently using a Cyclades KVM/Net please contact me off
list.
Thanks.
Here's the answer, and a photo of the IMP.
http://www.lk.cs.ucla.edu/LK/Inet/birth.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Iljitsch van Beijnum
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:20 PM
To: Peter H Salus
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IM
So there is no need to anycast the DNS servers and rely on BGP topology for
selection.
Instead use bind's behaviour so that each resolving nameserver will be
querying the authoritative nameserver that responds the fastest.
However, note that only BIND does this. djbdns always selects
nameserver
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: IMP #1
> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:19:36 +0200
> To: Peter H Salus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> On 1-sep-04, at 22:40, Peter H Salus wrote:
>
> > Tomorrow (Sept. 2) it will be 35 years since IMP #1
> > was plug
Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
>>> I'm sure there is research out there...
>> Why? :-)
> Usual - if I build it myself, will it work well enough, or should I pony
> up for a CDN?
Uh, what about that makes you sure that there's research out there?
O
On 1-sep-04, at 22:40, Peter H Salus wrote:
Tomorrow (Sept. 2) it will be 35 years since IMP #1
was plugged in at Len Kleinrock's lab at UCLA.
Happy Birthday!
Well, one IMP does not a network make... When did they connect the
second one?
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, James wrote:
>> Hmm, why not anycast the service/application ips? Having
>> inconsistent DNS info seems like a problem waiting to bite your
>> behind.
> Which begs the question.. is anyone doing this right now?
Yes, lots of people. Akamai is the largest
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
>>> I'm sure there is research out there...
>> Why? :-)
> Usual - if I build it myself, will it work well enough, or should I pony
> up for a CDN?
Uh, what about that makes you sure that there's research out there?
> I thought i
Jake,
The diagram was attributed to Vint Cerf by Alex
McKenzie, who allowed me to copy it for
"Casting the Net" (1995). It's on p. 55.
Peter
### On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:47:26 -0700, joe mcguckin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> casually
### decided to expound upon Peter H Salus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NANOG
### <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the following thoughts about "Re: IMP #1":
jm> I wonder if that was the same IMP that was gathering dust in a corner of th
Thanks to all the off-list responses. Really insightful.
Short summary :
1. IP back to the US is between $300 and $700 (AU) per
month per Mbps.
2. Difficult to peer directly with the 4 big ISPs. Easier
(relatively speaking) to find multilaretal peering with
the 600-odd smaller ISPs.
3. Equinix
On Sep 1, 2004, at 2:17 PM, Steve Francis wrote:
> ...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic
optimiser?
I'd hardly call it a kludge. It's been standard best-practice for
over a
decade.
I thought it was standard best practice for availability, like for
root name servers. I
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
> Paul Vixie wrote:
> >not only is it bad dns, it's bad web service. the fact that a current
> >routing table gives a client's query to a particular anycasted DNS server
> >does not mean that the web services mirror co-located with that DNS server
> >is th
I wonder if that was the same IMP that was gathering dust in a corner of the
student/staff lounge in Boelter Hall at UCLA? I used to see it when I would
pass by there on my way to the library 20 years ago...
Joe
On 9/1/04 1:40 PM, "Peter H Salus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Tomorrow (
Paul Vixie wrote:
not only is it bad dns, it's bad web service. the fact that a current
routing table gives a client's query to a particular anycasted DNS server
does not mean that the web services mirror co-located with that DNS server
is the one that would give you the best performance. for on
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:06:16AM -0700, Steve Francis wrote:
> I'm sure there is research out there, but I can't find it, so does
> anyone know of any research showing how good/bad using DNS anycast is as
> a kludgey traffic optimiser?
http://www.caida.org/outreach/papers/2002/Distance/
this
On 2 Sep 2004, at 06:05, Bill Woodcock wrote:
If you want nearest server, anycast will give you that
essentially 100% of the time.
Just to clarify this slightly, since I've known people to misinterpret
this point: a clear, contextual understanding of the word "nearest" is
important in understand
I'm having some issues getting mail out to Verizon accounts from
windermere.com. Could a verizon postmaster please contact me?
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
206-315-4357
--
Joe Hamelin
Edmonds, WA, US
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, James wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:00:53PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Hmm, why not anycast the service/application ips? Having inconsistent DNS
> >
--On onsdag 1 september 2004 10.31 +0200 Kurt Erik Lindqvist
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> didn't we have this discussion when the T640 came out. How many have
> one?
Nordunet has one. Nice box.
--
Måns Nilsson Systems Specialist
+46 70 681 7204 KTHNOC
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:00:53PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
>
> >
> > Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> >
> > >If I read your original request correctly you were planning on:
> > >1) having presence in multiple datacenters (assume multiple
Tomorrow (Sept. 2) it will be 35 years since IMP #1
was plugged in at Len Kleinrock's lab at UCLA.
Happy Birthday!
Peter
> > This isn't really 'anycast' so much as 'different A records depending on
> > server which was asked'
right.
> Well, there'd be one NS record returned for the zone in question. That
> NS record would be an IP address that is anycasted from all the
> datacenters. So end users (or their DNS s
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
>
> Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
>
> >If I read your original request correctly you were planning on:
> >1) having presence in multiple datacenters (assume multiple providers as
> >well)
> >2) having a 'authoritative' DNS server in each facility (or 2/3/4
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
If I read your original request correctly you were planning on:
1) having presence in multiple datacenters (assume multiple providers as
well)
2) having a 'authoritative' DNS server in each facility (or 2/3/4
whatever per center)
3) return datacenter-1-host-1 from datac
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
> I'm sure there is research out there, but I can't find it, so does
> anyone know of any research showing how good/bad using DNS anycast is as
> a kludgey traffic optimiser?
> (i.e. having multiple datacenters, all anycasting the authoritative name
> s
(Caution: Chris is a chemical engineer, not an anycast engineer)
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
> Bill Woodcock wrote:
>
> >> ...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic optimiser?
> >
> >I'd hardly call it a kludge. It's been standard best-practice for over a
> >deca
Steve Francis wrote:
Not really the right forum for this, but the kindo f thing nanog'ers
know:
Is there a way to make Linux ignore TCP sequence numbers?
You want to RTFS tcp_data_queue in tcp_input.c. However, even if you get
what you ask for you don't get what you wish to accomplish.
Pete
I need to get in touch with RP at hotmail, tried [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is
only for consumers of hotmail, as it needs to reference a hotmail account. I
tried [EMAIL PROTECTED], but have received no response. Is there a more
appropriate known address? This has to do with blocking mail at the ser
Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
> I'm sure there is research out there...
Why? :-)
Usual - if I build it myself, will it work well enough, or should I pony
up for a CDN?
> ...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic optimiser?
I'd hardly
Not really the right forum for this, but the kindo f thing nanog'ers know:
Is there a way to make Linux ignore TCP sequence numbers?
My goal is to be able to have a test network with servers that a point
real traffic at, mirrored off the live network.
Of course, only the live servers will be respo
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
> I'm sure there is research out there...
Why? :-)
> ...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic optimiser?
I'd hardly call it a kludge. It's been standard best-practice for over a
decade.
> THe question is, what is tha
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven Susbauer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
That's understandable as they would be blamed if someone downloaded a
compromised version (strange how they didn't mind Sp1 mirroring...).
I would have thought that they would have checksummed the file to a
known value, s
I'm sure there is research out there, but I can't find it, so does
anyone know of any research showing how good/bad using DNS anycast is as
a kludgey traffic optimiser?
(i.e. having multiple datacenters, all anycasting the authoritative name
server for a domain, but each datacenters' DNS server
Title: Re: XP SP2 other than windows update
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steven
SusbauerSent: Wed 9/1/2004 9:49 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: XP SP2 other than windows
update
I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai. I have heard
they'reasking ISP's not to mirror
I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai. I have heard they're
asking ISP's not to mirror it (and any other mirrors), and have shut
down bittorrent downloads. That's understandable as they would be
blamed if someone downloaded a compromised version (strange how they
didn't mind Sp1 mirroring
That URL does resolve to Akamai, but I had heard a rumor
they weren't going that route.
-M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Steven Susbauer
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XP SP2 other tha
I would be surprised if it wasn't on akamai, which would cut down on
much of the external traffic.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:01:24 -0400 , Hannigan, Martin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Already got mine and it went nice and smooth as far as I can tell.
> Kudos to MS.
>
> Has anyone noticed a
Already got mine and it went nice and smooth as far as I can tell.
Kudos to MS.
Has anyone noticed a real impact on the internet, traffic wise, related
to XP2? I'd suspect that some of the tier1's may see the traffic? Maybe
not?
-M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ca.us>, Michel Py <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Every IT professional I know has had SP2 available three different ways
for two weeks:
1) Somewhere on a server for support staff to begin to experiment with
and for a small set of guinea pig users to install.
2) On a CD
> Peter Galbavy wrote:
> My personal reasons for any downloading of audio, specifically,
> in it's unavailability through retail channels. I keep picking
> up references to older stuff that has been dumped by the pop-bods
> many years ago and cannot be bought for love nor money. I may be
> breakin
> Roland Perry wrote:
> I'm an IT professional, but only one of my PCs is running XP.
> And it's a full-price retail copy, not a bundled-OEM or upgrade.
> Hence me feeling left out when I'm told that "IT professionals"
> have already been allowed their Windows-update.
Every IT professional I know
Not that I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but I believe you meant
suprnova.org which is a BitTorrent site (supernova.org is not a
bittorrent site).
Check out this link for a list of other BitTorrent sites and
applications:
http://kevinrose.typepad.com/kr/2004/07/darktip_the_bes.html
-
They will have to wait for international delivery.
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 04:18, Roland Perry wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sean
> Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6
> >weeks, people report they are getting a
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sean
Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6
weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week.
Is distribution from all their worldwide offices, or will users outside
the USA
The CD's are supposed to hit Comp USA and Best BUy within the next month
or two for SP2.
The download link in this email should work fine for you even though it
is the large network install if you really need it and have broadband go
for it.
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 03:59, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David A. Ulevitch wrote:
> > would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it
> > after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and
> > nothing arriving.
>
> Microsoft isn't hiding the link:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165
Michel Py wrote:
2) Make audio CD's unreadable in a computer so nobody can rip the .wav
tracks to .mp3. Totally stupid:
2.a) Remember the last ones that tried (namely Sony)? Their protection
scheme could be defeated in 2 seconds with a sharpie. I'm still
laughing at it. Hara-kiri comes to mind.
...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David A.
Ulevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Microsoft isn't hiding the link:
>http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11fdcdf8/WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe
>
>linked from:
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/ma
> I have a solution, but it's expensive. A url for the whole 266MB
> download (and not the smaller selective download that Windows Update
> would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it
> after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and
> nothing arrivin
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On 2004-08-29, at 15.58, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
>
> If you find the prices staggering, it's likely that you and your
> organization don't need this product. Arguments about price gouging
> on memory, GBICs, power cords, and other commodity items
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian
Battle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Akamai or not, microsoft is overwhelmed by the demand for SP2, and today is
giving the message listed below on windowsupdate:
Download and install it now - Currently not available
We are currently experiencing a high level o
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On 2004-08-24, at 12.58, Bruce Campbell wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Tony Li wrote:
>
>> Did they arrest the crew? They have grounds on negligence
>> charges...
>
> The crew of the ship for having dropped anchor presumably in defiance
> of
> 'Und
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