Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 08:16:43PM +, Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 22 lines which said: This memorandum includes a proposal to create a new IPv6 address space distribution process, based solely on national authorities. This is a wrong presentation of the ITU

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

2004-11-23 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iljitsch van Beijnum) wrote: For instance, 212.x.y.z is known to be on one continent, and so on - but how do you leverage that into a 212/8 routing entry? Well, suppose we know 212/8 is used in Europe. A network that is present in say, North America and Europe then

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

2004-11-23 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeroen Massar) wrote: The current solution I see for this is still IPv6. Except that one moves the complete 'Independence' problem a layer higher. Enter: HIP: Host Identity Protocol: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hip-charter.html this level of

Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]]

2004-11-23 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 23-nov-04, at 6:49, Patrick W Gilmore wrote: If all active ASes did this we'd have a 400k routing table. So please no PI in IPv6, not even for large enterprises. Why is an ISP more worthy or PI space than a large enterprise. In fact, ISPs are responsible for far, far more table pollution

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

2004-11-23 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 11:32 +0100, Elmar K. Bins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeroen Massar) wrote: The current solution I see for this is still IPv6. Except that one moves the complete 'Independence' problem a layer higher. Enter: HIP: Host Identity Protocol:

Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread Vince Hoffman
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 08:16:43PM +, Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 22 lines which said: This memorandum includes a proposal to create a new IPv6 address space distribution process, based solely on national authorities. This

Fwd: Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread Hank Nussbacher
It would appear NANOG silently drops emails sent with Word attachments. Here is another try: http://www.interall.co.il/reply to RIRs.doc -Hank Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:46:31 +0200 To: Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Hank Nussbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 22-nov-04, at 21:16, Vince Hoffman wrote: This memorandum includes a proposal to create a new IPv6 address space distribution process, based solely on national authorities. This is not exactly what it says in http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/tsb-director/itut-wsis/files/zhao-netgov01.pdf A quote: The

RE: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addre sses

2004-11-23 Thread Hannigan, Martin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:17 AM To: Vince Hoffman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses On 22-nov-04, at 21:16, Vince Hoffman wrote:

Level 3 NOC information.

2004-11-23 Thread Majid Farid
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Re: Level 3 NOC information.

2004-11-23 Thread Todd Mitchell - lists
On 23/11/2004 9:19 AM Majid Farid wrote: Any one from LEVEL3 on the list please contact me off the list or if someone has their NOC information I would greatly appreciate if you can share it. Did you try the contact information listed at: http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi Todd

Re: Level 3 NOC information.

2004-11-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Todd Mitchell - lists wrote: Did you try the contact information listed at: http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi Or maybe get onto the inoc-dba phone system - once you are on it, http://www.pch.net/inoc-dba/ lists both genuity and level3 inoc-dba phone numbers that you can call. srs

Re: Level 3 NOC information.

2004-11-23 Thread Peter Corlett
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Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread Owen DeLong
Of course, then, the developing countries (and, more importantly, the countries with large viral or spammer populations) are then faced with the question of whether anyone will route their prefixes. Won't that make the ITU happy. Owen --On Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:16 PM +0100 Iljitsch van

RE: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread Network.Security
Interesting flow...who then enforces ITU rules? With what binding authority? Better yet, let the free market run the business. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:23 AM To: Iljitsch van

Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

2004-11-23 Thread bmanning
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:23:28AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: Of course, then, the developing countries (and, more importantly, the countries with large viral or spammer populations) are then faced with the question of whether anyone will route their prefixes. Won't that make the ITU happy.

RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery

2004-11-23 Thread Tony Hain
John Curran wrote: ... If ARIN's members direct it to provide such a service, and provide guidance that the fees should based initial-only and on a cost recovery, I have a lot of faith that it would occur... That does, of course, presume that the operator community actually agrees with

RE: Probe dns service - anycast network

2004-11-23 Thread Anshuman Kanwar
http://www.digitarchy.com/anycast/phcd.tgz Will do pretty much what you want. My target was a HTTP based service rather than DNS. Modification for UDP health checks should be trivial. -ansh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gere geomag

RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery

2004-11-23 Thread Owen DeLong
I have never been a fan of the registered ULAs, and have argued against the IETF's attempts to state specific monetary values or lifetime practice as a directive to the RIRs; but I am equally bothered by the thought that the operator community would feel a need to fight against something that

RE: Level 3 NOC information.

2004-11-23 Thread Blake L. Smith - XtremeBandwidth.com, Inc.
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Re: Frame-Relay reliability (was Re: who gets a /32)

2004-11-23 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Sean Donelan wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: Yeah right. That's why Worldcom's frame-relay network was unusable for about 10 days and took out part of the Chicago Board of Trade elecronic trading system. and to be fair it might have

Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]]

2004-11-23 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iljitsch van Beijnum) writes: I'm going to try to make this my last message on this subject... ok. In addition to portable address space being harmful, I also believe it's not really necessary. Renumbering client-only systems is NOT a problem with DHCP or IPv6