Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]

2005-11-13 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:07:48PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: > Verizon is calling their offering "Broadband access." Cablevision calls > their offering "Optimum Online." Are those the same as "Internet access?" Depends on what they promise. For instance, if I go to Cable V

Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!

2005-11-13 Thread Scott Bradner
> "bridge where you can, route where you must." -- i forgot where this > came from? Radia? Cabletron

Re: Level3 Question

2005-11-13 Thread Geoff Huston
At 04:10 PM 12/11/2005, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Nov 11, 2005, at 5:19 PM, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: I think, however, that this will be less dramatic than other things. This is a "relatively" simple software change. The one thing it *will* do is make sure that all the old hardware out the

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-13 Thread Geoff Huston
Example registered but not 'routed': 7.0.0.0/8 Not a good example. This particular /8 allocation is described by IANA as "007/8 Apr 95 IANA - Reserved" in http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space while a whois query to the ARIN database reveals: $ whois 7.0.0.0 OrgName:

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-13 Thread Geoff Huston
I don't believe there is a 'rfc1918' in v6 (yet), I agree that it doesn't seem relevant, damaging perhaps though :) So you how would interpret the combination of RFC4913 and the statistical analysis known as "the birthday problem"? I offer the interpretation of this as use of address space

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-13 Thread Geoff Huston
At 05:41 AM 13/11/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: routed where? your router? my router? until/unless you can look at EVERY router and see this mythical DFP in ALL of them, then i remain convinced you are deluded. Such applaudable absolutism does you credit in a ma

Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!

2005-11-13 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Randy Bush wrote: i suggest, as opposed to the forever chant "operators should come to ivtf and participate," that more ivtf folk should come to operational fora and try to participate. with the ivtf's move to mediocrity and complexity, it is no longer the center of the uni

Re: Networking Pearl Harbor in the Making

2005-11-13 Thread Edward B. Dreger
RB> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:03:44 -0600 (CST) RB> From: Robert Bonomi RB> "Upgrades" or 'fixes' that cause a machine to run noticably _slower_ than RB> the 'down-rev' machine are a really good way to alienate customers. Especially RB> thosw whose machines are running at nearly 100% capacity b

Paging Google's Googlebot developers re. bugs

2005-11-13 Thread Matthew Elvey
Googlebot keeps ignoring my robots.txt file, thereby hammering the server and facilitating spam. I think I found at least 2 bugs; see this thread in the robots.txt forum thread: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum93/782.htm I've used Google's direct contact form last Wednesday; still no ack

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-13 Thread Peter Dambier
Christopher L. Morrow wrote: ... I don't believe there is a 'rfc1918' in v6 (yet), I agree that it doesn't seem relevant, damaging perhaps though :) Yes, there was rfc1918 in IPv6 right from the beginning: Site local addresses "0xF80" dont leave a site. They can be routed within a site b

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Dambier writes: > >Christopher L. Morrow wrote: >> >... >> >> I don't believe there is a 'rfc1918' in v6 (yet), I agree that it doesn't >> seem relevant, damaging perhaps though :) >> > >Yes, there was rfc1918 in IPv6 right from the beginning: > >Site local

Re: Paging Google's Googlebot developers re. bugs

2005-11-13 Thread Tony Finch
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Matthew Elvey wrote: > > Please don't reply w/o reading the above thread, to avoid repetition. I have to pay to see it. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dotat.at/ BISCAY: WEST 5 OR 6 BECOMING VARIABLE 3 OR 4. SHOWERS AT FIRST. MODERATE OR GOOD.

Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!

2005-11-13 Thread Tony Li
On Nov 13, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Scott Bradner wrote: "bridge where you can, route where you must." -- i forgot where this came from? Radia? Cabletron And before that, Vitalink. ;-) Tony

Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]

2005-11-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Leo Bicknell wrote: > "access the Internet", could it be more clear? No, because there is no legal defintion of "the Internet." During the early days of the privitization of the Internet, you could not access www.pizzahut.com (on UUNET) from various universities (on NSFNET)