Joe Johnson wrote:
I've been trying over and over to figure this one out, but I'm just hitting
the end of my wits. We have a remote office that can only get 768Kbps DSL,
which they've not totally maxed out. So management's solution now is to buy
a second DSL line, but they won't let me buy a
is anybody else receiving this spam when they advertise a new AS nowadays?
(i'm trying to figure out which whois information is being policy-violated
and who to complain about, but if i'm the only one receiving it, i may JHD.)
re:
# From: Antony Gullusci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# To: [EMAIL
your not the only one...
--bill
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:04:16PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is anybody else receiving this spam when they advertise a new AS nowadays?
(i'm trying to figure out which whois information is being policy-violated
and who to complain about, but if i'm
# your not the only one...
do you think it's worth complaining, or is this another hey, you put your
contact information out there, we're just using it, and the mail isn't spam,
it's absolutely on-topic? spammer?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is anybody else receiving this spam when they advertise a new AS nowadays?
(i'm trying to figure out which whois information is being policy-violated
and who to complain about, but if i'm the only one receiving it, i may JHD.)
They are likely
[ This is not a plug for a vendor, just operational experience ]
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 10:49:51 +0100, Peter Dambier proclaimed...
I dont see how the router can NAT to more than one ip-address. So you need
one NAT-router per DSL-line.
I have some experience with the Xincom Twin WAN router.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been trying over and over to figure this one out, but I'm just
hitting
the end of my wits. We have a remote office that can only get 768Kbps
DSL,
which they've not totally maxed out. So management's solution now is
to
buy
a second
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3570211
--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
On Dec 15, 2005, at 06:54, Rossi, Jeremy wrote:
Have you looked OpenBSD with pf? You can create rules that map
outbound
session to a different DSL router, interface, and/or gateway based on
any number of rules. The man page pf.conf[1] and more precisely the
FreeBSD with IPF \ IPNAT [1]
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3570211
Quote: There is an unreleased report by the Dept. of Commerce
estimating it will take $25-$75 billion to pay for
the transition
$50 billion is a heck of a variance in estimates!
I suppose they could have said that it will
Remember Senator Bentsen: A billion here, a billion there...and soon you're talking REAL money!On 12/15/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3570211Quote: There is an unreleased report by the Dept. of Commerce estimating it will take
# your not the only one...
do you think it's worth complaining, or is this another hey,
you put your
contact information out there, we're just using it, and the
mail isn't spam,
it's absolutely on-topic? spammer?
In my experiencce, these are being originated from here i.e.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:32:05AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3570211
Well, vendors like Juniper were quick to add extra charges for IPv6
to get more out of this budget. :-) or better :-(
Vendors know that .gov HAS to buy the IPv6 license,
[ SNIP ]
This is not directed at Sean, but please -- as a fomer Cisco
engineering flunky, I can distinguish between marketing fluff
(even when disguised as a 'case study') and real figures, and
the truth is, there are no figures, because there is dismal
adoption of the services. Go
The whole QoS/2 tier Internet thing I find deeply, deeply
suspicious...here in the mobile space, everyone is getting obsessed by
IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) and explaining to each other that they
need it so they can offer Better QoS, like the subscribers want. What
they really mean, I suspect,
Bingo.
What they are really saying is:
We're _telling_ you that you need it because we need new
ways to generate additional revenue.
;-)
Cheers,
- ferg
-- Alexander Harrowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The whole QoS/2 tier Internet thing I find deeply, deeply
suspicious...here in the mobile
And not by offering you anything you might want to buy, either, but by setting up wanky little tollbooths.On 12/15/05, Fergie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bingo.What they are really saying is:
We're _telling_ you that you need it because we need newways to generate additional revenue.;-)Cheers,-
Long story short (excerpt from an email I sent to Tony
Bates and Larry Lang):
---
In our discussion yesterday on the Service Exchange
Architecture (SEA) list, I mentioned a kind of a
Telecommunications Perfect Storm (TPS) that we should
at least be
[...]
How many of these are in place today? Well, clearly google
is building out, so there is potential for (i). to occur
any day now. Likewise (ii) (linksys gear with 4 tunable
radios, North-South WiMAX, east west 802.11bag, and
you're there). Finally, (iii).
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Robert Bonomi wrote:
That's an example of the lack of plain English in the
proposal. Why don't we just talk about AS numbers greater
than 65535 or AS numbers less than 65536?
Because there is more to it than just that. :)
No, there isn't. AS numbers are integers.
[ SNIP ]
This is not directed at Sean, but please -- as a fomer Cisco
engineering flunky, I can distinguish between marketing fluff
(even when disguised as a 'case study') and real figures, and
the truth is, there are no figures, because there is dismal
adoption of the services. Go figure.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 08:33:55AM -0600, eric wrote:
[ This is not a plug for a vendor, just operational experience ]
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 10:49:51 +0100, Peter Dambier proclaimed...
I dont see how the router can NAT to more than one ip-address. So you need
one NAT-router per
Fellow Nanogers,
In one of our WAN circuits we have a Huawei Quidway router. Has anyone
developed a Cacti template for monitoring that kind of device? Configuring it
to be seen as a Cisco router doesn't work.
Abraços,
Marlon Borba, CISSP.
--
Se você acha que a criptografia pode resolver
Fellow Nanogers,
In one of our WAN circuits we have a Huawei Quidway router.
Has anyone developed a Cacti template for monitoring that
kind of device? Configuring it to be seen as a Cisco router
doesn't work.
Abraços,
Marlon Borba, CISSP.
Randy-
I don't think your bank analogy is very strong, but never mind that.
I agree with what you're saying in principle, that if a user/customer
buys bit delivery at a fixed rate then we should deliver it. But as ISPs
we don't sell this. As a network operator, I do sell various kinds of
Randy-
I don't think your bank analogy is very strong, but never mind that.
I agree with what you're saying in principle, that if a user/customer
buys bit delivery at a fixed rate then we should deliver it.
But isn't that the point. You can't guarantee delivery, just as you
can't
- Original Message Follows -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: who's receiving comvalid/bgpsentinel spam? (Re: BGP
)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:04:16 +
is anybody else receiving this spam when they advertise a
new AS nowadays? (i'm trying to figure out which whois
Joe -
Linux can do this, check out:
http://www.lartc.org/
More specifically:
http://www.lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html and
http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/#routes
I am working on a redhat project that requires QoS over multiple VLAN's.
I was reading up on tc and imq devices when I
If the core is well run (not normally over-utilized) and the endpoints
have adequate capacity, then you *can* guarantee the call. (where
guarantee represents a quality *approaching* 100%, as defined in
SLAs...) I assume we're not talking about poorly-run cores here. So what
I think you're
On 12/15/05, Hannigan, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But isn't that the point. You can't guarantee delivery, just as you
can't guarantee you won't get a busy signal when you make a call.
Absolutely.
But if the carrier tunes their network so you will never get a busy
signal when calling into
Hi Benson,
Okay -- forget about banks, forget about other comparative
analogies -- let's talk about the Internet.
I think Bill Manning hit on it a couple of days ago; Bill said
something about the Internet being about best effort and QoS
should be (various) levels of 'better-than-best effort'
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Fergie wrote:
I think Bill Manning hit on it a couple of days ago; Bill said
something about the Internet being about best effort and QoS
should be (various) levels of 'better-than-best effort' -- and
anything less that best effort is _not_ the Internet.
ATT, Global
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:49 -0500 (EST)
Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ATT, Global Crossing, Level3, MCI, Savvis, Sprint, etc have sold
QOS services for years. Level3 says 20% of the traffic over its
What do they mean by QoS? Is it IntServ, DiffServ, PVCs, the law of
averages or
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, John Kristoff wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:49 -0500 (EST)
Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ATT, Global Crossing, Level3, MCI, Savvis, Sprint, etc have sold
QOS services for years. Level3 says 20% of the traffic over its
What do they mean by QoS? Is it
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:29:29 + (GMT)
Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my experience that is easier said than done. However, you remind
me of what I think is what most who say they want QoS are really
after. DoS protection. By focusing on DoS mitigation instead of
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:34:56PM -0800, David Meyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:29:29AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, John Kristoff wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:49 -0500 (EST)
Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ATT, Global
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, John Kristoff wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:29:29 + (GMT)
Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my experience that is easier said than done. However, you remind
me of what I think is what most who say they want QoS are really
after. DoS
Hello Dave;
This won't open for me.
Do you have a pdf of these slides ?
Regards;
Marshall
On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:39 PM, David Meyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:34:56PM -0800, David Meyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:29:29AM +, Christopher L. Morrow
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec
ah-ha! and here I thought they wanted buzzword compliance :) From what
sales/customers say it seems like they have a perception that 'qos will
let me use MORE of my too-small pipe' (or not spend as fast on more pipe)
more than anything else.
and i wonder who is selling that need?
randy
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Hello Dave;
This won't open for me.
Do you have a pdf of these slides ?
On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:39 PM, David Meyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:34:56PM -0800, David Meyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:29:29AM +, Christopher
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
ah-ha! and here I thought they wanted buzzword compliance :) From what
sales/customers say it seems like they have a perception that 'qos will
let me use MORE of my too-small pipe' (or not spend as fast on more pipe)
more than anything else.
and
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:52:20AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Hello Dave;
This won't open for me.
Do you have a pdf of these slides ?
On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:39 PM, David Meyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:34:56PM
ah-ha! and here I thought they wanted buzzword compliance :) From what
sales/customers say it seems like they have a perception that 'qos will
let me use MORE of my too-small pipe' (or not spend as fast on more pipe)
more than anything else.
and i wonder who is selling that need?
the wierd
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
ah-ha! and here I thought they wanted buzzword compliance :) From what
sales/customers say it seems like they have a perception that 'qos will
let me use MORE of my too-small pipe' (or not spend as fast on more pipe)
more than anything else.
and i
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
http://www.secsup.org/files/dmm-queuing.pdf
oh firstgrad spelling where ahve you gone?
also at: http://www.secsup.org/files/dmm-queueing.pdf
incase you type not paste.
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Actually, for actual implementation, there are subtle differences between
AS 0x0002 ans AS 0x0002. True, they are the same AS in 16 and 32 bit
representation, and, for allocation policy, they are the same, but, in
actual router guts, there are limited circumstances where you might actually
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