Re: IPv6 Firewalls

2007-01-31 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
I guess this can be helpful to find not just firewalls but any IPv6-compliant product/service. http://www.ipv6-to-standard.org Regards, Jordi De: Joseph S D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:36:58 -0500 Para: J. Oquendo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cisco Security Advisory: SIP Packet Reloads IOS Devices Not Configured for SIP

2007-01-31 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: SIP Packet Reloads IOS Devices Not Configured for SIP Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20070131-sip http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20070131-sip.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2007 Jan 31 0900 UTC (GMT

Re: Best way to supply colo customer with specific provider

2007-01-31 Thread matthew zeier
Steve Gibbard wrote: If you actually want to do this, you've got four choices: - Policy route, as mentioned below. - Get the customer their own connection to Cogent. - Have a border router that only talks to Cogent and doesn't receive full routes from your core, and connect the customer

NANOG39 (Sheraton Centre Toronto)

2007-01-31 Thread Carol Wadsworth
NANOG 39 Meeting Attendees, Please note if you are staying in the Sheraton Centre Toronto and have a room reservation in the NANOG room block at the NANOG rate, you are entitled to receive complimentary in-room Internet access, complimentary access to the fitness center, and discounted valet

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-31 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:19:12AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IPv6 makes NAT obsolete because IPv6 firewalls can provide all the useful features of IPv4 NAT without any of the downsides. IPv6 firewalls? Where? Good ones? Why good ones. NAT is a basic IPv4 firewall. All

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-31 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:04:25PM -, Mark D. Kaye wrote: Hi, PIX/ASA Supports IPv6 Apparently, see below. Don't know anyone who has tested it yet though ;-) http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_guide_ chapter09186a0080636f44.html Note Failover does

what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Vixie
bear with me, this appears to be about DNS but it's actually about e-mail. maps.vix.com has been gone since 1999 or so. mail-abuse.org is the new thing. i've tried just about everything to get traffic toward the old domain name to stop... right now there's a DNAME but it made no real

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Randy Bush
once upon a time, someone more insane than myself wanted to close an RBL and did so by replacing it with a wildcard entry. we all hated that since it caused a lot of mail to bounce. (all mail that would otherwise have been received by that RBL's subscribers, in fact.) it did however have

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Derek J. Balling
Randy Bush wrote: once upon a time, someone more insane than myself wanted to close an RBL and did so by replacing it with a wildcard entry. we all hated that since it caused a lot of mail to bounce. (all mail that would otherwise have been received by that RBL's subscribers, in fact.) it

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Vixie
... the effect of causing the subscribers to reconfigure their mailers to stop querying the now-dead RBL in question. what's the current thinking on this? one problem with this is that the pain is not felt by the misconfigured folk, but by distant innocents. i am one of those who

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Vixie
One thing you might consider is putting together a script to harvest email addresses from whois records that correspond to the PTR for the querying IPs. Add to that list abuse, postmaster, webmaster, hostmaster, etc @ the poorly run domain. Then fire off a message explaining the situation

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Steve Sobol
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Derek J. Balling wrote: I think that at some poing, Paul has a right to attempt to reclaim the sane use of his domain name, and considering how long the DNSBL in question has been out of commission, and people who use it should know that by now, the carrot needs to be

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread John Levine
it caused a lot of mail to bounce. (all mail that would otherwise have been received by that RBL's subscribers, in fact.) it did however have the effect of causing the subscribers to reconfigure their mailers to stop querying the now-dead RBL in question. what's the current thinking on this?

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Barry Shein
one problem with this is that the pain is not felt by the misconfigured folk, but by distant innocents. etc. One problem we have is that we tend to see the internet as a perfect simulation of a fair and just system, at least as a first goal. I don't know if that's possible or not.

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread David Ulevitch
Paul Vixie wrote: bear with me, this appears to be about DNS but it's actually about e-mail. maps.vix.com has been gone since 1999 or so. mail-abuse.org is the new thing. i've tried just about everything to get traffic toward the old domain name to stop... right now there's a DNAME but it

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Joseph S D Yao
Thinking this out, out loud. Well, in black and white, anyway. Your vix.com name servers are authoritative for the zone. If a name server wants to do a lookup on maps.vix.com, it will get it from cache, or send a query to the listed IP address for one of the name servers. You said you had

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Wallingford
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Barry Shein wrote: :One problem we have is that we tend to see the internet as a perfect :simulation of a fair and just system, at least as a first goal. : :I don't know if that's possible or not. I don't know if anyone has :actually explored the issue deeply. One problem is

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Ross Hosman
Or just have everydns [or insert other free dns provider] handle your primary dns and let them handle the traffic, problem solved (for you atleast) :-) Personally I have no sympathy to people who are using outdated dnsbl's (especially from 1999), I would consider the wildcard if you want to

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Trent Lloyd
snip The only way for it not to arrive at the name server is for something in the way to block it. Perhaps a transparent filter, or perhaps the IP addresses of the name servers are your firewalls, which will block and pass the rest on to the real name servers behind them. The problem here

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Trent Lloyd wrote: snip The only way for it not to arrive at the name server is for something in the way to block it. Perhaps a transparent filter, or perhaps the IP addresses of the name servers are your firewalls, which will block and pass the rest on to the

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Brian Wallingford wrote: it's not a priority). Considering the time passed since maps went defunct, Paul is entirely justified in doing whatever is necessary to cluebat the offending networks, imho. here's the funny thing... what if the cluebat doesn't actualy change

RE: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Gregory Taylor
DNS forward all queries and replies to myspace, Im sure they'll enjoy that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Vixie Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:48 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: what the heck do i do now? ... the

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Brian Wallingford wrote: ... Considering the time passed since maps went defunct, Paul is entirely justified in doing whatever is necessary to cluebat the offending networks, imho. That's my opinion too. But I do have some domain name server addresses that get a lot of traffic due to

gmail admin anywhere?

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Jeftovic
Is there a gmail admin around? Could you give me a shout offlist? -mark -- Mark Jeftovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder President, easyDNS Technologies Inc. ph. +1-(416)-535-8672 ext 225 fx. +1-(866) 273-2892

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Foster
list... I talked to my lawyer. And while I am not a lawyer, I can tell you that my lawyer pointed out several interesting legal theories under which I could have some serious liability, and so I don't do that any more. (As an example, consider what happens *to you* if a hospital stops getting

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Chris Owen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Mark Foster wrote: list... I talked to my lawyer. And while I am not a lawyer, I can tell you that my lawyer pointed out several interesting legal theories under which I could have some serious liability, and so I

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Lewis
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Paul Vixie wrote: One thing you might consider is putting together a script to harvest email addresses from whois records that correspond to the PTR for the querying IPs. Add to that list abuse, postmaster, webmaster, hostmaster, etc @ the poorly run domain. Then fire off

WTH does Paul do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Lewis
Why do I even bother? -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:08:22 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:08:18 -0500 from

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
As an, ahem, lawyer, I think what you do and how you do it matter a lot here. And it would be prudent to talk to someone who understood your facts and situation before doing some of the things discussed in this thread. (I won't be more specific for fear of sounding like I'm giving legal

Re: what the heck do i do now?

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Foster
It is impossible to know with any confidence without knowing more details, but from the face of it, it is far from obvious to me that Mark Foster's lawyer got this wrong. (Meanwhile, this will make a great exam question some day.) I agree, except it wasn't my Laywer. You mean Matthew

Re: Best way to supply colo customer with specific provider

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Gristina
another way is tunnel them to a border router that interfaces with Cogent and deal with it at the border router. QinQ tunnel, GRE, IPSec, or whatever tunnel type you can support and will service the type of traffic your customer needs (L2 or L3). If you have multiple Cogent connections you