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From: Rod Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sean Donelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Hank Nussbacher [mailto:[EMAIL
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Cc: nanog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:14:20 -0800
Subject: RE: TransAtlantic Cable Break
Protected 10 gig waves NYC
To clarify my last post, and to partly correct it, I was referring to VZ's new
TPE China cable, where I mentioned pending pricing and T&C information. Of
course, VZ already meshes its IP backbones, as a matter of course today, in
existing systems.
Frank A. Coluccio
DTI Consulting Inc.
212-587-815
Interestingly, some major transoceanic undertakings have begun looking very
favorably towards a meshed topology solution, eschewing rings. Verizon is
championing this approach at the present time as a consortium partner in the
Trans-Pacific Express (TPE) cable laying venture to China, and offers
j
One backhoe hit took out the first half of the cable, but the digger
realized he goofed and stopped. The fiber company then cut the
rest of the bundle to cleanly fix the cut... without warning anyone
who was running on their failover protected circuit that something
might be about to happen.
Apparently, this has been in the news for a couple of days, but only just
hit my hometown paper
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AT&T Inc. has started offering a broadband Internet service for $10 a month,
cheaper than any advertised plan. The DSL, or digital subscriber line, plan
introduced Saturday is part of the con
>Is paying for "protected circuits" actually worth it. Or are you better
>off just buying two circuits and using both during normal conditions.
>Use switching at layer 3 to the remaining circuit during abnormal
>conditions. Most of the time, you get twice the capacity for only twice
>the pri
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 10:27 -0400, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
So none of the customers on that well known system have any ring
protection at this point nor will they during the next two weeks.
[...]
Oh, there *is* no "*other* other side"? That must
Protected 10 gig waves NYC/London are extremely expensive. Say $60K or more per
month.
So it usually makes sense for the Layer 3 guys to lease diversely routed 10 gig
waves and do the protection themselves using MPLS or load balancing or some
other protocol about which I know little ...
Roder
Could be that it is localized to the Cleveland area, but is anyone else
noticing issues with glbx?
-Drew
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You would be surprised at how many don't split their traffic among several
cable systems or if they do split, do due diligence on the terrestrial
backhaul that most of these cables share on the US and UK sides.
There is lot of cost pressure in the IP market and it is very tempting to
give all the
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Tell that to the 10 gig wave customers who lost service. Very few cable
systems provide protection at the 10 gig wave level.
If you don't pay the extra amount for a protected circuit, why should your
circuit get protection for free when others have
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
Tell that to the 10 gig wave customers who lost service. Very few cable
systems provide protection at the 10 gig wave level.
If you don't pay the extra amount for a protected circuit, why should your
circuit get protection for free when others hav
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
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> Yes, since most cables have multiple IP backbones on them, and this one
> has only one ...
there's a transatlantic cable system with only 1 IP backbone using it??
Really? is it just a tiny cable with little capacity? Or is the consortium
that ow
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 10:59 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Oh, there *is* no "*other* other side"? That must be what Roderick meant.. ;)
And he just happens to have an email addr that suggests he's involved
with a company that sells that *other* other side. Just saying.
Don't get me wrong..
> Tell that to the 10 gig wave customers who lost service. Very few cable
> systems provide protection at the 10 gig wave level.
But surely you knew that going into the deal and did something about it?
Neil.
Thank you Vladis for pointing out that untidy detail ..
:)
Best Regards,
Roderick.
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:46 EDT, Jim Popovitch said:
>> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 10:27 -0400, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
>> > So none of the customers on that well known system have any ring
>> > protection at this
Yes, since most cables have multiple IP backbones on them, and this one
has only one ...
>
>
>> This cable system is also a major IP backbone player.
>>
>> So it shouldn't be too hard to guess their identity.
>
> You think?
>
>
Roderick S. Beck.
Global Wholesale Bandwidth, LLC
Manhattan & Paris
Tell that to the 10 gig wave customers who lost service. Very few cable
systems provide protection at the 10 gig wave level.
>
> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 10:27 -0400, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
>> the real news is that one of the TransAtlantic cables has had one
>> of their two cables severed. Repair
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:46 EDT, Jim Popovitch said:
> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 10:27 -0400, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
> > So none of the customers on that well known system have any ring
> > protection at this point nor will they during the next two weeks.
> Isn't that the way a ring works? Sounds l
> This cable system is also a major IP backbone player.
>
> So it shouldn't be too hard to guess their identity.
You think?
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 10:27 -0400, Roderick S. Beck wrote:
> the real news is that one of the TransAtlantic cables has had one
> of their two cables severed. Repair is not expected until after
> the US July 4th holiday.
>
> So none of the customers on that well known system have any ring
> prot
Well, despite all this talk about the Latin fiber break, the real news is
that one of the TransAtlantic cables has had one of their two cables
severed. Repair is not expected until after the US July 4th holiday.
So none of the customers on that well known system have any ring
protection at this p
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