Transition Planning for IPv6 as mandated by the US Govt

2008-03-15 Thread Glen Kent
Hi, I was just reading http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/egov/b-1-information.html#IPV6, released some time back in 2005, and it seems that the US Govt. had set the target date of 30th June 2008 for all federal govt agencies to move their network backbones to IPv6. This deadline is almost here. Are

Re: Transition Planning for IPv6 as mandated by the US Govt

2008-03-15 Thread Brian Wallingford
No, and no. Shouldn't be a surprise. (all is the dealbreaker, certain agencies are on the ball, but most are barely experimenting). On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Glen Kent wrote: : :Hi, : :I was just reading :http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/egov/b-1-information.html#IPV6, released :some time back in

Re: Transition Planning for IPv6 as mandated by the US Govt

2008-03-15 Thread Nathan Ward
On 15/03/2008, at 7:19 PM, Glen Kent wrote: I have another related question: Do all ISPs atleast support tunneling the IPv6 pkts to some end point? For example, is there a way for an IPv6 enthusiast to send his IPv6 packet from his laptop to a remote IPv6 server in the current circumstances if

Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Felix Bako
Hello, Guyz please try to reach my network 194.9.82.0/24 from your networks. Am seeeing routing loops from several looking glasses. above.net, Alameda.net. but from traceroute.eu. the block comes down ok. Kindly anyone assist. -- Best Regards, Felix Bako Network Engineer Africa Online, Kenya

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008, Felix Bako wrote: Hello, Guyz please try to reach my network 194.9.82.0/24 from your networks. Am seeeing routing loops from several looking glasses. above.net, Alameda.net. but from traceroute.eu. the block comes down ok. Kindly anyone assist. Uh, still seems to be

RE: Transition Planning for IPv6 as mandated by the US Govt

2008-03-15 Thread John Lee
My understanding of the mandate is that they (the Department and Agencies) demonstrate passing IPv6 traffic on their backbone from one system out to their backbone and back to another system. A number of agencies, if I remember the number of about 30 have IPv6 allocations. IRS has

RE: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Robert D. Scott
Tracing route to uu-194-009-082-001.uunet.co.ke [194.9.82.1] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms ssrb230a-vpn-3080-1-e2.ns.ufl.edu [128.227.166.116] 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 128.227.252.109 3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms ssrb230a-ewan-msfc-1-v704-1.ns.ufl.edu

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Felix Bako
Guyz, Does anyone know what i can do to expediate Above.Net to fix this issue quickly. There Noc they said they were checking now for more than 4 hrs Regards Felix Robert D. Scott wrote: Tracing route to uu-194-009-082-001.uunet.co.ke [194.9.82.1] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 8 ms

RE: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Robert D. Scott
Are you talking to them, or your upstream provider? If your provider is not yet engaged do so. Above net is doing something, the loop is bigger now. 11:30 EDST -4 11 156 ms 208 ms 224 ms 64.125.26.77 12 117 ms 116 ms 117 ms 64.125.26.69 13 119 ms 121 ms 125 ms

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Dominic J. Eidson
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Felix Bako wrote: Guyz, Does anyone know what i can do to expediate Above.Net to fix this issue quickly. There Noc they said they were checking now for more than 4 hrs I see it differently from here: traceroute to 194.9.82.1 (194.9.82.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread sthaug
Does anyone know what i can do to expediate Above.Net to fix this issue quickly. There Noc they said they were checking now for more than 4 hrs I see it differently from here: From here (Oslo, Norway, Level3 as one of our transit providers) it works fine - I can even ping 194.9.82.137.

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 06:31:40PM +0300, Felix Bako wrote: Guyz, Does anyone know what i can do to expediate Above.Net to fix this issue quickly. There Noc they said they were checking now for more than 4 hrs I'm seeing an inconsistent origin AS for this /24 from Above.net and PCCW. #

RE: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Seeing slightly different results from here. Aside from the fact the network I'm on is a little slow, Tracing route to uu-194-009-082-001.uunet.co.ke [194.9.82.1] over a maximum of 30 hops: 111 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.15.1 2 *** Request timed out. 3

RE: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Frank Bulk
Felix: There's still a routing look at above.net, as documented by others and the other listserv you posted this on (cisco-nsp?). 1276 ms73 ms79 ms chp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.139.150] 1378 ms77 ms75 ms so-4-1-0.mpr2.ord7.us.above.net [64.125.12.149] 14

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Chris Stone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix Bako Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:11 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Routing Loop Guyz please try to reach my network 194.9.82.0/24 from

Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Danny McPherson
[more accurate subject line] On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Felix Bako wrote: Hello, There is a routing loop while accesing my network 194.9.82.0/24 from some networks on the Internet. | This is a test done from lg.above.net looking glass. 1 ten-gige-2-2.mpr2.ams2.nl.above.net

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Danny McPherson
A bit more analysis of this at the moment, and a few recommendations and related pointers is available here: http://tinyurl.com/2nqg2a -danny

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Florian Weimer
There's also somewhat odd data in RADB (look at the changed: line): route: 194.9.64.0/19 descr: SES-Newskies Customer Prefix origin:AS16422 remarks: SES-Newskies Customer Prefix notify:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt-by:MNT-NWSK changed: [EMAIL

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Danny McPherson
On Mar 15, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: There's also somewhat odd data in RADB (look at the changed: line): route: 194.9.64.0/19 descr: SES-Newskies Customer Prefix origin:AS16422 remarks: SES-Newskies Customer Prefix notify:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Bill Stewart
7018 is still seeing announcements from 6461, and the Oregon Routeviews server route-views.routeviews.org also sees many announcements from different ISPs seeing it announced from 6461. The whois entry for Above.net lists the NOC as RTechHandle: NOC41-ORG-ARIN RTechName: AboveNet NOC

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Glen Kent
Unlike the Youtube outage where PTA had issued a directive asking all ISPs to block Youtube - What is the reason most often cited for such mishaps? The reason i ask this is because the ISPs that inadvertently hijack someone elses IP space, need to explicitly configure *something* to do this. So,

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread S. Ryan
I see this at 9:10pm PST: traceroute uu-194-009-082-001.uunet.co.ke traceroute to uu-194-009-082-001.uunet.co.ke (194.9.82.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 64-192-2-193.static.unwiredbb.com (64.192.2.193) 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms 2 64-192-0-253.static.unwiredbb.com (64.192.0.253) 15 ms 14

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Glen Kent
Wow! Its close to 20 hours now, and folks have still not fixed the problem! I hope they're not many IPs NATed behind that unfortunate /24 that has been cherry picked by AboveNet. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7018 is still seeing announcements from

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Bill Stewart
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Glen Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike the Youtube outage where PTA had issued a directive asking all ISPs to block Youtube - What is the reason most often cited for such mishaps? The reason i ask this is because the ISPs that inadvertently hijack

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Randy Bush
A popular reason from longer ago was enterprises that used arbitrary addresses for their internal networks, which was safe because they'd never be connected to the real internet. RFC1918 has made that problem mostly go away, but as recently as 1995 I had a customer who was a bank that was

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen two popular reasons for doing it accidentally - Fat fingers when configuring IP addresses by hand - Using old routing protocols such as IGRP or RIP and autosummarizing routes, usually done by a

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008, Danny McPherson wrote: A bit more analysis of this at the moment, and a few recommendations and related pointers is available here: http://tinyurl.com/2nqg2a Its a good writeup. :) It almost sounds like Felix should talk to some friendly SP's and organise /25