Re: rack power question

2008-03-25 Thread Leigh Porter
Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > Brian Raaen wrote: >> Russia (or the USSR at that time) used to use liquid graphite to cool >> their nuclear reactors, even thought it was flammable of course >> that was what they were using in Chernobyl. > > This has diverged far enough that it's now off the topic of

Re: rack power question

2008-03-25 Thread Leigh Porter
se water cooling to popularise > it; if there were two water ports on all the pizzaboxes next to the RJ45s, > and a standard set of flexible pipes, how many people would start using it? > There's probably a medical, automotive or aerospace standard out there. > > On Tue, Mar 25, 20

Re: rack power question

2008-03-25 Thread Leigh Porter
$5 Adrian Chadd wrote: This thread begs a question - how much do you think it'd be worth to do things more efficiently? Adrian

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-17 Thread Leigh Porter
All you can say is...* **Caveat emptor.** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> 2. What's the technical terminology for the request for AT&T >> to simply start advertising our netblock called? I'm >> wondering if they're not understanding our request. >> > > You hit the nail on the head with that

Re: DreamHost Contact?

2007-12-31 Thread Leigh Porter
Stasiniewicz, Adam wrote: > In a previous job (circa mid 2004), I had attempted to get materials removed from a DreamHost client (they where hosting it in violation of my, at the time, employer's copyright). The DreamHost abuse process was completely useless, and we ended up having to take direct

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-25 Thread Leigh Porter
LOL.. Yeah, I am on call today - thankfully nothing happened. Anyway, I hope you had a peaceful day! -- Leigh Crawford, Scott wrote: Well, I guess he told you. :) Merry Christmas Scotte -Original Message- From: "Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-25 Thread Leigh Porter
Wow, is this what you folks do at Christmas ? -- Leigh Joe Greco wrote: Right... Let's look at this in detail: /48 per customer == 65,536 customers at $2,250 == $0.03433/customer /56 per customer == 16,777,216 customers at $2,250 == $0.00013/customer So, total savings per customer is $0.03

Re: IEEE 40GE & 100GE

2007-12-12 Thread Leigh Porter
Another nice feature would be cheap cheap optics with say 500M-1KM reach for inter-floor connects. -- Leigh Robert E. Seastrom wrote: A practical question here: does anyone know offhand if 4km reach is adequate for interbuilding access (i.e., DC[124] to DC3) access at Equinix Ashburn, incl

Re: BOTNET reference involving oscilloscope

2007-11-23 Thread Leigh Porter
We have a load of test kit here running Windows, it frightens me as it gets moved from lab to lab office to office and nobody runs anything on it to keep in check. It's a sad sad world when you need anti virus software on your lab test kit! I mean really, how screwed up is it to run Windows on

Re: unwise filtering policy from cox.net

2007-11-21 Thread Leigh Porter
Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Barry Shein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: P.S. It's an interesting thought. The only approach to a solution I could imagine is that the whole address would have to be passed in the MX query. Once upon a time (1987) there was this experimental facility called M

Re: Postmaster Operator List?

2007-11-16 Thread Leigh Porter
If there was, I sure would not join it. It'd be full of "I cannot send mail to your domain blah blah" -- Leigh Justin Scott wrote: > Is there a mailing list similar to NANOG specifically for e-mail > operations? I've seen some smaller lists around that deal with specific > issues (spam, etc.)

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

2007-11-09 Thread Leigh Porter
Bill Nash wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > > >> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:11:28AM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: >> >>> On Nov 9, 2007 11:00 AM, Bill Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Given the serious impact this is having on operations, does this have a

Re: Abusive traffic from Microsoft China?

2007-11-08 Thread Leigh Porter
Yeah.. I would nmap it, see whats there and check for web sites etc. Also check revdns/fwddns for the address space and see if they match and have microsoft registered domains. -- Leigh Church, Charles wrote: > Looks fishy. Why would a company the size of Microsoft register a > single /25?

Re: "ARPANet Co-Founder Predicts An Internet Crisis" (slashdot)

2007-10-25 Thread Leigh Porter
A friend of mine who is a Jehova's Witness read something about the Internet and the end of the world in Watchtower recently. Could it be the same thing do you think? Perhaps they got it right this time? -- Leigh Porter Andrew Odlyzko wrote: > Isn't this same Dr. Larry Robert

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-25 Thread Leigh Porter
And with working QoS and DSCP tagging flat rate works just fine. Andrew Odlyzko wrote: > Flat rate schemes have been spreading over the kicking and > screaming bodies of telecom executives (bodies that are > very much alive because of all the feasting on the profits > produced by flat rates).

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-25 Thread Leigh Porter
Rod Beck wrote: > > > The vast bulk of users have no idea how many bytes they > > consume each month or the bytes generated by different > > applications. The schemes being advocated in this discussion > > require that the end users be Layer 3 engineers. > > "Actually, it sounds a lot like the Ele

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-25 Thread Leigh Porter
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > On 24-okt-2007, at 16:44, Rod Beck wrote: > >> The vast bulk of users have no idea how many bytes they consume each >> month or the bytes generated by different applications. The schemes >> being advocated in this discussion require that the end users be >> Layer 3

Rack space and bandwidth in Joran

2007-10-22 Thread Leigh Porter
Hi All, I am looking for hosting facilities for about 10-20 racks and Internet transit with good local connectivity in Jordan, can anybody help? Thanks, Leigh Porter UK Broaband/PCCW

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
You are more likely to get 5000 zonealarm emails Justin M. Streiner wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Chris Owen wrote: > >> You can't consider every wacko on the net when doing something like >> this. Anyone who considers a ping an attack probably isn't worth >> worrying about. > > I tend to

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
27MB? I duno, that's quite a lot.. I'll have to delete some mp3s first.. Duane Wessels wrote: > > > ISI folks have been taking this census since at least mid 2003. > > We vizualized their data using our tool and then made a movie showing > the changes from 2003 to late 2006. If you have 27 MB a

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-04 Thread Leigh Porter
Yeah, try buying bandwidth in Australia! The have a lot more water to cover ( and so potentially more cost and more profit to be made by monopolies) than well connected areas such as the US. Also there may be more tax costs, staff costs, equipment costs with import duty etc which obviously means

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know

2007-09-13 Thread Leigh Porter
Cabling Installatin & Maintenance Magazine Sounds like a fascinating read ;-) Frank Coluccio wrote: > Article: Abandoned Cable Removal A Dogged Challenge For All > Cabling Installatin & Maintenance Magazine > By Patrick McLaughlin | July 2007 Issue > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/32cfak > -- >

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know

2007-09-12 Thread Leigh Porter
That is certainly very pretty cabling and most people usually start out with things very pretty. What happens then is that things evolve, you run out of space and have to put kit in other racks, run loads of cabling there and then it gets moved again and then you add more cables and then a fibre

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-10 Thread Leigh Porter
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Warren Kumari > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:56 AM > To: Leigh Porter > Cc: Patrick Muldoon; Vinny Abello; nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know > where it went? > > > One of the pla

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-10 Thread Leigh Porter
We used to have a POP under somebodys stairs in Bristol in the UK and another POP in the loft of a friend of one of the employees. They sold their house and the POP stayed there and the new owners knew nothing about it, imagine their surprise when a telco engineer turned up wanting to fix a fibre

Re: DNS not working - Rank High

2007-08-17 Thread Leigh Porter
y on list anyways...) with mine and am very unhappy that he is trying to get me involved is his games. He should be unsubscribed from the list as he has contributed absolutely nothing but garbage! I disagree, he contributed comedy, which always helps when you're up at midnight watching your GGSN die :) -- Leigh Porter UK Broadband

Re: Extreme congestion (was Re: inter-domain link recovery)

2007-08-17 Thread Leigh Porter
a customer > retrieve the file from another customer on their network, then it is > to go off net for the file. > > (LLU (where the ISP has installed their own equipment in the exchange) > changes this dynamic obviously). > > S Also bear in mind that many wireless systems have constrained uplink capacity and anything P2P can quite happily kill a wireless network by using up too much uplink resource. -- Leigh Porter

Re: udp fragments, 1472 bytes payload

2007-08-14 Thread Leigh Porter
LOL! I guess if they are from different source addresses, varying UDP ports etc and the total bandwidth in infeasible for a typical video stream.. Thankfully it sounds quite easy to build a filter for. -- Leigh Marshall Eubanks wrote: Are you sure you don't have a customer watching stre

Re: large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.

2007-08-06 Thread Leigh Porter
But why would they care where the nameserver is? Point 2 would seem to be a little stupid a thing to assume. Also, what happens if, at that moment, the ICMP packet is stuck in a queue for a few ms making the shortest route longer. -- Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:53:1

Re: 40Gbit private peer

2007-08-03 Thread Leigh Porter
Petri Helenius wrote: Could be, I heard that she was hosting the new Piratebay SupaNove service.. -- Leigh > Leigh Porter wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> BEcause you really need it ;-) >> >> 30 second input rate 77849000 bits/sec, 7236 packets/sec >>

Re: 40Gbit private peer

2007-08-02 Thread Leigh Porter
I hope they have good peering :) Blake Pfankuch wrote: I would be interested to see how a torrent reacts on a line like that :D -Blake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leigh Porter Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:36 PM To: Peter

Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information.

2007-08-01 Thread Leigh Porter
We always used to put full customer details in RIPE for AS6765 and AS5378. I never had any issues or queries from anybody, they were just told that this is how it is done. -- Leigh Porter Steven Champeon wrote: > on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:47:45AM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote: > >&

Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox)

2007-07-23 Thread Leigh Porter
Hiya, Plenty of boxes can do redirection in the middle such as Redback, Ellacoya etc. We redirect customers who are infected to a web page when the first connect. Then every few hours they get re-directed again, just enough so it's a bit annoying. If they ignore this for a few weeks, they get re

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Leigh Porter
I see a global demand for perhaps 5 CRS-1s ;-) Brandon Butterworth wrote: Wouldn't residential fiber be expected to radiate out from neighborhood break-out boxes, or at the longest from a central office in the middle of town, rather than having some central point where enough individual stra

Re: TCP congestion

2007-07-12 Thread Leigh Porter
Come on folks, don't be afraid. We all know the beast is to blame for this, just don't say the name three times... Shub Internet Philip Lavine wrote: I just don't understand how if there is 1 segment that gets lost how this could translate to such a catastrophic long period of slow-start.

Re: trans-Atlantic latency?

2007-06-29 Thread Leigh Porter
I used to get about 60ms from router to router in TAT12/13 (I think) from London Telehouse to NY Telehouse. Security Admin (NetSec) wrote: Sprint has probably the lowest latency in the industry; I use them for a Los Angeles - London IPSec VPN. Typical latency is around 140-150 ms rt (70

Re: Software or PHP/PERL scripts for simple network management?

2007-06-20 Thread Leigh Porter
david raistrick wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> information (i.e. source of all data). Canonical data is in >> routing/forwarding tables on routers/switches. That's the operational >> reality. >> >> The amount of data that you need to track IP allocations just doesn't

Re: Software or PHP/PERL scripts for simple network management?

2007-06-19 Thread Leigh Porter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, William Allen Simpson wrote: Drew Weaver wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation of any software products either commercial or freeware which will import the ip routing table from one of my routers/switches and display it in a sor

Re: Quarantining infected hosts (Was: FBI tells the public to call their ISP for help)

2007-06-19 Thread Leigh Porter
Douglas Otis wrote: On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On 6/19/07, Leigh Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Agreed, SMTP is not really a special vector, other than it's obvious commercial spam use. So just block all the usual virus vector ports, block 2

Re: Software or PHP/PERL scripts for simple network management?

2007-06-19 Thread Leigh Porter
William Allen Simpson wrote: Drew Weaver wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation of any software products either commercial or freeware which will import the ip routing table from one of my routers/switches and display it in a sorted manner? We just need an easier distributed method

Re: Software or PHP/PERL scripts for simple network management?

2007-06-18 Thread Leigh Porter
Just out of interest, why are you looking at routing tables to find an available subnet? -- Leigh Porter Scott Weeks wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation of any software products either commercial or freeware which will import the ip routing

Re: Assigning a fine (Was: Quarantining infected hosts (Was: FBI tells the public to call their ISP for help))

2007-06-18 Thread Leigh Porter
Indeed and there is no need to fine them. Simply quarantine them in a way that allows outbound WWW access and nothing else. Most customers will not notice anyway. You could also occasionally re-direct them to a forced-portal that tells them they are infected with something and describing how to f

Re: Network Parameters on Subscriber side feelings

2007-06-18 Thread Leigh Porter
e periodic measurments of TCP throughput, UDP throughput and packet loss was far more interesting. -- Leigh Porter

Re: FBI tells the public to call their ISP for help

2007-06-13 Thread Leigh Porter
Brandon Butterworth wrote: I found it amusing the FBI saying "don't call us (either)." Can't say I blame them, most reports from people who installed a security device they know nothing about seem to CC the FBI They must be bored tracking down why our web servers are attacking people wit

Re: workshop on app classification

2007-06-13 Thread Leigh Porter
Hiya all, This is similar to some work being carried out by the WiMAX Forum at the moment. As for the forum, I'd be willing to provide anonymised output from our Ellacoya boxes. -- Leigh Mark Allman wrote: > > Folks- > > This is a bit off-topic, but I wanted to make folks aware of it and no

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK) for people who cant be bothered to read the article..

2007-06-08 Thread Leigh Porter
Why did they even go for him in the fist place? Has anybody heard of operation Ore in the UK? It looks like a bit of a disaster, who would have thought that stolen credit Card details would have been used to buy illegal porn? -- Leigh Alexander Harrowell wrote: Well, it seems to be a stan

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK) for people who cant be bothered to read the article..

2007-06-08 Thread Leigh Porter
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 8-jun-2007, at 12:01, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In this case I would suggest that it is in ISPs best interests to get involved with network content blocking, so that ISPs collectively become deep experts on the subject. We are then in a po

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK) for people who cant be bothered to read the article..

2007-06-08 Thread Leigh Porter
ssshhh David Freedman wrote: Its too late, you've already admitted that the data exists and can be captured. This is always where it starts... Dave. Leigh Porter wrote: Alexander Harrowell wrote: On 6/7/07, Leigh Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since only port 8

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK) for people who cant be bothered to read the article..

2007-06-08 Thread Leigh Porter
Alexander Harrowell wrote: On 6/7/07, Leigh Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since only port 80 is passed through the filter then of course there are all manor of things you could do to circumvent the filter and this will of course always be the case as people will use whatever they

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK)

2007-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
of port 80 and everybody's happy for a while. Perhaps it'll even go away. -- Leigh Porter

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK)

2007-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
.html Also the lists are actually updated fairly regularly. -- Leigh Porter

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK) for people who cant be bothered to read the article..

2007-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
ou want is to subscribe to a decent USENET service and get it all from that. For what it's worth though it works well for what it is and we certainly get a few hits on it. -- Leigh Porter

Re: Network Level Content Blocking (UK)

2007-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
Alexander Harrowell wrote: I strongly recommend you read Richard Clayton's paper on how (among other things) one could hack the Cleanfeed system to *find* the really bad stuff. He and his colleagues at the Cambridge Computer Lab also have a fine blog - http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org I don

Re: www.cnn.com

2007-04-26 Thread Leigh Porter
Which ones? Brandon Butterworth wrote: As to what CNN are doing with their DNS, I've no idea, but I don't think it concerns Nanog Other news sites are available regards, brandon http://news.bbc.co.uk/

Re: Hotmail blackholing certain IP ranges ?

2007-04-26 Thread Leigh Porter
They can have remote desktop sessions to an Indian city somewhere and employ a few thousand people to click the OK buttons ;-) -- Leigh Owen DeLong wrote: Tongue in cheek: Perhaps they upgraded to Vista on their servers and they are all waiting for someone to come around and answ

Re: Hotmail blackholing certain IP ranges ?

2007-04-26 Thread Leigh Porter
Simon Waters wrote: On Thursday 26 April 2007 00:43, you wrote: A chap I know (for some reason) set his source port for queries to be port 53 and his DNS queries started to fail. It was the default source port for DNS queries in some versions of BIND. And may well still be (I don't d

RE: Hotmail blackholing certain IP ranges ?

2007-04-25 Thread Leigh Porter
Yeah they and a few others started doing this not too long ago (few months). I thought perhaps something common got upgraded/patched but then I just thought that it was a rather odd configuration change.. It certainly is new. A chap I know (for some reason) set his source port for queries to b

Re: from the academic side of the house

2007-04-24 Thread Leigh Porter
what is it? Jim Shankland Also, it's a "modified" TCP not just tuned. I wonder how modified it is? Will it talk to an un-modified TCP stack (whatever that really is) ? -- Leigh Porter

Re: from the academic side of the house

2007-04-24 Thread Leigh Porter
Adrian Chadd wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next day, the team used a modified version of TCP to achieve an even greater record. Using the same 30,000 km path, the network was able to achieve a throughput of 9.08 Gbps which is equal to 272,400 Tb-m/s for both the

Re: IP Block 99/8 (DHS insanity - offtopic)

2007-04-24 Thread Leigh Porter
Don't forget to post to the list where you will do this so I can come and watch ;-) Marcus H. Sachs wrote: Mr. Oquendo (I presume "Mr." but if it's "Ms." please accept my apologies...), it appears that there is little common ground between you and me. So, rather than stringing this out for

Re: UK ISP threatens security researcher

2007-04-24 Thread Leigh Porter
Dragos Ruiu wrote: On Thursday 19 April 2007 18:25, Simon Lyall wrote: If you are a random person who comes across a security hole in a website or commercial product then the best thing to do is tell nobody, refrain from any further investigation and if possible remove all evidence you ever

Re: UK ISP threatens security researcher

2007-04-20 Thread Leigh Porter
any notice of being informed of it anyway, because they were informed of it a number of times.. -- Leigh Porter

Re: BGP Problem on 04/16/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Leigh Porter
hard. ---rob Leigh Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Somebody form a certain large network vendor actually blamed problems with their kit on cosmic rays causing memory corruption... -- Leigh Porter Jay Hennigan wrote: Andre Oppermann wrote: Audie On

Re: BGP Problem on 04/16/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Leigh Porter
Somebody form a certain large network vendor actually blamed problems with their kit on cosmic rays causing memory corruption... -- Leigh Porter Jay Hennigan wrote: > > Andre Oppermann wrote: >> >> Audie Onibala wrote: >>> Yesterday on 04/16/07 between 3:0

RE: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet

2007-04-13 Thread Leigh Porter
This way it does not matter than some box somewhere does not support anything greater than a 1500 byte MTU, anything with such a box in the path will simply not support a jumbogram. How do you find out? Just send a jumbogram across the path and see what happens.. ;-) -- Leigh Porter UK Broa

Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-12 Thread Leigh Porter
ce people to use our mail servers that have sensible rate limiting etc. People who use alternate SMTP servers can fill in a simple web form to have them added to the exception list. We have about 50 on this list so far. -- Leigh Porter