RE: MPLS billing model

2003-11-25 Thread St. Clair, James
I'd appreciate knowing this as well - thanks in advance Jim -Original Message- From: Dan Lockwood To: Nanog List (E-mail) Sent: 11/25/2003 2:04 PM Subject: MPLS billing model For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do you charge for and how do you do the

RE: VeriSign Capitulates

2003-10-04 Thread St. Clair, James
I would add that what you perceive as a diverse group is still a realtively small sub-set of all the internet operations. As Owen points out, the unstated message is a group of geeks behind the scene (my words) ended something the great Verisign was doing for the benefit of all netizens. Shame

RE: Don't forget about physical security - Australia

2003-09-08 Thread St. Clair, James
My apologies to spamming Sean - here is the link to the tale: Personal Message: Brilliant display of chutzpah and social engineering. The brazen airport computer theft that has Australia's anti-terror fighters up in arms By Philip Cornford September 5, 2003 URL:

RE: Did Sean Gorman's maps show the cascading vulnerability in Ohio?

2003-08-18 Thread St. Clair, James
Capacity isn't the problem. The problem is that there aren't enough lines between the providers and consumers to carry the current volume. Eric A. Hall Exactly, and everyone on this list should realize this exists in EVERY utility. A quote from CNN.com, Money section: However, the wireless

RE: Microsoft to ship new versions with firewall enabled

2003-08-18 Thread St. Clair, James
Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS? -- No clue, but I can tell you how long it will last before ISP helpdesks disable

RE: How much longer..

2003-08-14 Thread St. Clair, James
Users, both corporate and at home, need to be taught that there is no such thing as plug and play. For as much as I agree with the philosophy here, we must realize it is the wrong approach. Cars did not become more popular because owners had to learn how to swap more parts. Wireless phones

RE: How much longer..

2003-08-14 Thread St. Clair, James
on the user will not work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: St. Clair, James Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Sent: 8/14/2003 9:17 AM Subject: RE: How much longer.. On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, St. Clair, James wrote: Cars did not become more popular because owners had to learn how to swap

RE: The internet is slow

2003-07-31 Thread St. Clair, James
tell ur user a gerbil got sick and the wheel isn't spinning as fast today

RE: North America not interested in IP V6

2003-07-29 Thread St. Clair, James
Please somebody correct me..Can't a provider simply NAT the IPv4 at his gateway, and stream IPv6 to as many wireless customers as he can lock into a painful long-term contract? (just kidding!) The demand for /8's won't change any, and you can IPv6 and eat your cake too. I do understand the v4 to

RE: BGP to doom us all

2003-03-03 Thread St. Clair, James
Good point, Sean. The problem is the business process and the risk to the process, vs. the cost to fix it. Jim -Original Message- From: Sean Donelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:25 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: BGP to doom us all On Fri, 28

RE: In case you didn't notice: Virtual protest

2003-02-26 Thread St. Clair, James
:( Pluh-lease! You forgot one.. John Sullivan on MANIFEST DESTINY: == ...and her high example shall smite unto death the tyranny of kings, hierarchs, and oligarchs, and carry the glad tidings of peace and good will where myriads now endure an existence scarcely

RE: Homeland Security Alert System

2003-02-24 Thread St. Clair, James
..Once again, reason to pursue getting involved with the Telecomm ISAC. Jim -Original Message- From: Sean Donelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Homeland Security Alert System I'm certain the government folks

RE: SSL crack in the news

2003-02-22 Thread St. Clair, James
Yeah, CNN screwed up the story more than they releaed anything.. Jim -Original Message- From: Matt Zimmerman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/22/03 5:13 PM Subject: Re: SSL crack in the news On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 03:55:14PM -0500, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

RE: Homeland Security Alert System

2003-02-21 Thread St. Clair, James
Martin, From the NANOG perspective, the best place to tie your own alert system to nat'l threat levels is with the Telecomm ISAC, which is run out of the NCS. That is the 27/7/365 commander center for telecomm sector security. Bear in mind, a change in the HSAS may NOT be as a result of a