Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

>An interesting line from page 10 of the article: > >"Diversity is not needed in the deep ocean, but land crossings are >viewed as considerably more risky." > >This philosophy should probably be rethought somewhat, as we may have >discovered this past week. All the recent cuts were littoral, n

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

ing respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert Bonomi Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 7:20 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:21:00 -0800 > From: "Scott Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt > undersea cable disruption > > > On Feb 1, 2008 6:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian &l

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

$quoted_author = "Scott Francis" ; > > maybe there's a lot more overlap in shipping lanes and cable runs than > I thought ... In confined waters like the Suez, Red Sea et. al. there is a lot of overlap. Which makes three cables cuts in that area during bad weather not such a stretch of the imagi

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

Really? What cable is that?! -Original Message- From: Rubens Kuhl Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 02 February 2008 11:33 To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption > "NEW YORK (AP) -- The lines that

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

And AFAIK not all kilometers of cables lie on the ocean floor; if the ocean has high depth on a given part of the cable route, the cable simply floats on the water on that run. It's just a matter of having enough pressure to lift it up. and for the difficult parts, they pump helium in and get

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

> "NEW YORK (AP) -- The lines that tie the globe together by carrying > phone calls and Internet traffic are just two-thirds of an inch thick > where they lie on the ocean floor." And AFAIK not all kilometers of cables lie on the ocean floor; if the ocean has high depth on a given part of the cab

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

PROTECTED]>, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 07:09:50 +0530 On Feb 2, 2008 4:07 AM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yah. I'm a security guy, and hence suspicious b

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Feb 2, 2008 4:07 AM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yah. I'm a security guy, and hence suspicious by nature -- our slogan > is "Paranoia is our Profession" -- and I'm getting very concerned. The > old saying comes to mind: "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, > but th

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: Yah. I'm a security guy, and hence suspicious by nature -- our slogan is "Paranoia is our Profession" -- and I'm getting very concerned. The old saying comes to mind: "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but the third time is enemy action".

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

More productively, there are real concerns with the cable routing around India and Pakistan. Connections across Egypt have geographical constraints that are probably more significant than the political ones, but having most of the connectivity into western India going into Mumbai and not Cochin o

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Feb 1, 2008 2:37 PM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (either that, or the backhoe operators' union has decided there's > > better money to be made on water than on land.) Guys named Bubba can get fishing licenses just as easily as backhoe drivers' licenses. One of my customer

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Feb 1, 2008 2:35 PM, Rod Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not at all, there have been cables in the water since 1858 (first > TransAtlantic cable - telegraph). Right now there are 80 major cables out > there. > > Give yourself 170 years of undersea cables and calculate the odds. > > :)

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

Not at all, there have been cables in the water since 1858 (first TransAtlantic cable - telegraph). Right now there are 80 major cables out there. Give yourself 170 years of undersea cables and calculate the odds. :) Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:21:00 -0800 "Scott Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2008 6:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-cable-reportedly-cut/story.aspx?guid={1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9} >

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Feb 1, 2008 6:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-cable-reportedly-cut/story.aspx?guid={1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9} > > "We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours back. > The cable was a

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

Dorn Hetzel wrote: perhaps my favorite magazine article of all time. . the original came with pictures . i tried the wayback machine, but could not find a version with them. :( i guess i should wget the great ones with pics before they

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

perhaps my favorite magazine article of all time. On Feb 1, 2008 1:13 PM, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Weight is a bigger issue than most people realize. > > perhaps folk would benefit from [re]reading Neal Stephenson's wonderful > classic bit of gonzo journalism in Wired, >

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

Weight is a bigger issue than most people realize. perhaps folk would benefit from [re]reading Neal Stephenson's wonderful classic bit of gonzo journalism in Wired, . randy

RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Martin Hannigan Sent: Fri 2/1/2008 5:01 PM To: Steven M. Bellovin Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption On Feb 1, 2008 11:43 AM, Steven M. Bellovin

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

The Submarine Cable Improvement Group http://www.scig.net/ has plenty of details about trends in submarine cable damage and improvements in submarine cable protection.

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

On Feb 1, 2008 11:43 AM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's an interesting article at > http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Internet-Outages-Cables.html > on cable chokepoints. > "NEW YORK (AP) -- The lines that tie the globe together by carrying phone calls and In

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

There's an interesting article at http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Internet-Outages-Cables.html on cable chokepoints.

Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-cable-reportedly-cut/story.aspx?guid={1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9} "We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours back. The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet data, everything," one Flag official,