EuroNOG

2003-02-03 Thread Nicolas DEFFAYET
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EuroNOG (European Network Operators Group) Date: 04 Feb 2003 00:18:41 +0100 Hi folks, For european people, there is now a group called EuroNOG with about the same goals as Nanog. For more information: http://www.euronog.org/ For subscribe to EuroNOG mailing-list, sen

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-03 Thread bmanning
rs and he subscribed to nanog > and nanog-post.) > > -Forwarded Message- > > From: Mike CHENEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: EuroNOG (European Network Operators Group) > Date: 04 Feb 2003 00:18:41 +0100 > > Hi folks, > >

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
o are not members of the 6bone or who do not know France, let's remind them that: * NDsoftware does not exist (it is not in the French directory of companies) * Mike Cheney does not exist (NDsoftware lists several english names because it is "more serious" but all of them are actually fa

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Erik-Jan Bos
Stephane, As in the output below when you go to their web site? " Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. " __ Erik-Jan.

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Erik-Jan Bos wrote: > As in the output below when you go to their web site? http://www.euronog.org/ returns a page for me. Henk -- Henk Uijterwaal Email: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Erik-Jan Bos
Henk, http://www.euronog.org/ returns a page for me. Go to Sponsers and click on the one and only sponsor. __ Erik-Jan.

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Subhi S Hashwa
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:52:57PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum? Do you have a URL for the above forum? google isn't returning anything useful. -- Subhi S Hashwa *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- When everything's coming yo

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Subhi S Hashwa wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:52:57PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum? > > Do you have a URL for the above forum? google isn't returning anything > useful. http://www.ripe.n

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread bmanning
> > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:52:57PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum? > > Do you have a URL for the above forum? google isn't returning anything useful. > > Subhi S Hashwa *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Che

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Nicolas DEFFAYET
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:09, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: As requested by Pascal Gloor on EuroNOG mailing-list, i reply to Stephane's message. Flames & co > /dev/null > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:52:57PM -0800, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a mes

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread woody
Oh! Sorry, we didn't know Jim FLEMING was behind it. I'm sure we're all glad to be thus reassured of its bona fides. Original Message From: Nicolas DEFFAYET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: EuroNOG On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:09, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: As requ

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Nicolas DEFFAYET
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 02:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh! Sorry, we didn't know Jim FLEMING was behind it. I'm sure we're all glad to be >thus reassured of its bona fides. Jim FLEMING is not a EuroNOG founder. Jim FLEMING is just a subscriber of the mailing-list. We kn

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
My co-Bill, the estimable Mr. Manning wrote: >>> how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European >>> Operator Forum? Mr. DEFAYET replied: > NDSoftware exist. > Mike CHENEY exist. > EuroNOG is neutral. However, I'm no

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-04 Thread Neil J. McRae
> Do you have a URL for the above forum? google isn't returning anything useful. http://www.ripe.net/ but don't worry you aren't missing much [anything?] -- Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-05 Thread bmanning
> My co-Bill, the estimable Mr. Manning wrote: > >>> how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European > >>> Operator Forum? > > Mr. DEFAYET replied: > > NDSoftware exist. > > Mike CHENEY exist. > >

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 5 February 2003, at 0 h 54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > NDSoftware exist. ... > I'm still waiting. NDsoftware does not exist, at least as a company in France. It is *not* registered in any French directory of companies (check it out: http://www.societe.com/). Theref

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-05 Thread bmanning
what are the differences (charter) between the European Operator Forum (eof) and the nasent EuroNOG? Young Nich. has failed to respond. I guess the question is either too difficult to answer or is perceived to be retorical. --bill

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-05 Thread Randy Bush
instead of spending our time and energy putting down fools, let us try to be constructive. let's put our money where our mouths are. i am soliciting presentations for the eof meeting in barcelona. of particular interest a presentations on operationally oriented research, heretofor little-present

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-05 Thread Timo Mohre
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: [lots of cool stuff here] 4) ND software is incorporated in Jersey, Monaco, Virgin Islands or the Bahamas, not in France I'd like the bahamas... would be a great first meeting :) -- Timo Mohre / Network Engineer / Tiscali Germany Business Division / Robert-Bosch

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-06 Thread Nicolas DEFFAYET
t; The question I ask, and am still waiting for an answer to is; > > what are the differences (charter) between the European Operator > Forum (eof) and the nasent EuroNOG? > > Young Nich. has failed to respond. I guess the question is either >

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-06 Thread bmanning
thank you for the update. --bill

Re: EuroNOG

2003-02-07 Thread Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
Nicolas, > 2/ Differences beetween RIPE EOF and EuroNOG > > RIPE EOF is not neutral and depend of RIPE. > EuroNOG is neutral and don't depend of any organization. RIPE is a neutral and independent organization, so any of its working groups are by definition also neutra