Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Michael . Dillon
Network Analyst CCNA/MCP/MCSA Thanks for your EXCELLENT example of how technical certification programs are no guarantee of fundamental technical understanding. P.S. If you don't ask the right questions you will never get the right answers.

RE: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Christopher Aldridge
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work. Thanks for your EXCELLENT example of how technical certification programs are no guarantee of fundamental technical understanding. P.S

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Mar 1, 2004, at 9:02 AM, Christopher Aldridge wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work. Thanks for your EXCELLENT example of how technical certification programs

RE: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Christopher Aldridge
-Original Message- From: Patrick W.Gilmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work. Please do not take this the wrong way, but I thought it was useful input. Perhaps not to you, but maybe to those who think that getting their MCSA will teach them

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Mar 1, 2004, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Aldridge wrote: Please do not take this the wrong way, but I thought it was useful input. Perhaps not to you, but maybe to those who think that getting their MCSA will teach them all they need to know. One who thinks these exam topics cover (as you say

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Henry Linneweh
Consumers are not interested in certificates, they want solutions that are packaged. Front end services when people sign up for accounts should include allthe tools necessary for survive on any network you provider access to. -Henry"Patrick W.Gilmore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 1, 2004, at

RE: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Andy Dills
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Christopher Aldridge wrote: know, should really investigate this certification. Some of the things you asked were extremely basic. What things were these? How about the question about whether or not a usb ethernet adapter was an ethernet converter? You're the one who

RE: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-03-01 Thread Henry Linneweh
You wanna know about USB read this and that doesn't take an MSCEhttp://www.usb.org/faq Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Christopher Aldridge wrote: know", should really investigate this certification. Some of the things you asked were extremely basic. What "things" were

First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Christopher Aldridge
NOTE: I have been a nanog observer for nearly a year. The following may be slightly off topic, but it seems as though nanog is my last hope. Recently at work, Ive been battling fellow coworkers on a very simple debate. The fact that I will not give in on my argument really makes me look

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Roland Perry
  USB in this scenario would be synonymous with PCI, in regards to the type of technology that interfaces with the cpu. Yes. 3)   Just because a device has two physical mediums of connectivity, dosent make it a ?converter?. My coworkers argue that a USB Ethernet adapter is an

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Randy Bush
just say no to html html xmlns:o=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office xmlns:w=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word xmlns:st1=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags xmlns=http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=us-ascii

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Randy Bush [2/29/2004 7:53 PM] : just say no to html and to top posting and fullquoting all the ugly, malformed microsoft html [1] as well, I hope? :) srs [1] I kind of repeated myself there, I fear html xmlns:o=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Christopher Aldridge wrote: Is a USB Ethernet Adapter a converter? Personally, I say no. My coworkers seem to say yes. I suspect the truth is that it is and it isnt... the complication being what you mean by terms like 'Ethernet' which comprises a number of standards

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Roland Perry
I suspect what the convertor does is take the frame, and send it out the USB in whatever format it needs to be data intact. It sends highly processed(/extracted) data to a device driver running on the PC. Just like an ethernet adapter on a PC-card would. If it were in any sense still ethernet

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Ron da Silva
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:47:21PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Randy Bush [2/29/2004 7:53 PM] : just say no to html and to top posting and fullquoting all the ugly, malformed microsoft html [1] as well, I hope? :) urlview and lynx are your firends... -ron

Re: First Post! Annoying Debate at Work.

2004-02-29 Thread Ron da Silva
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 01:54:36PM -0500, Ron da Silva wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:47:21PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Randy Bush [2/29/2004 7:53 PM] : just say no to html and to top posting and fullquoting all the ugly, malformed microsoft html [1] as well, I