On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
And while Cisco's autosecure feature looks fine in most parts (saves
a lazy overworked bum like me a lot of typing), it does not do much
good - in my opinion - when it comes to bogon filtering. I prefer
knowing what the filter looks like, and it does
Hank :-)
that, nor any way of modifying the list (correct me if I'm wrong).
See pages 9, 10 and 12 of the PDF I posted. Specifically, it
sets up: ip access-list extended autosec_iana_reserved_block, and ip
access-list extended autosec_complete_bogon which you of course can
change like
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
And while Cisco's autosecure feature looks fine in most parts (saves
a lazy overworked bum like me a lot of typing), it does not do much
good - in my opinion - when it comes to bogon filtering. I prefer
knowing what the filter looks
On Thu 02 Dec 2004 (15:21 -0500), Steven Champeon wrote:
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients and the servers don't appear
to be keyed. If a million clients
On 3-dec-04, at 10:57, Andre Oppermann wrote:
Routers would ship with the iana_reserved_block list of when they were
manufactured. If the user is stoopid enough not to be able to get his
filters from Cymru directly then he should not have any filtering at
all
because he is never going to update
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:57:15AM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote:
If you do any bogon filtering at all then do it with some automatically
updating system like an BGP bogon feed from Cymru.
How does the BGP bogon feed from cymru protect against more-specific
bogons ?
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I dont know how many
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
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on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients and the servers don't appear
to be keyed. If a million clients got owned, it would be the
equivalent of an electronic
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients and the servers don't appear
to be keyed. If a million clients got owned, it
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:55:02PM -0800, Chad Skidmore wrote:
quoting me:
What's the difference? Why is everyone so upset about Lycos and
nobody seems to be doing much of anything about the /existing
botnets/, which conservative estimates[1] already put at anywhere
from 1-3K per botnet to
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:58:03PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients
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on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:55:02PM -0800, Chad
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on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:15:34PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
quoting me:
My point was to Martin's question about what would happen if - god
forbid - there were large botnets under the control of spammers; a
careful reading will suggest that my major point was, duh, that there
already
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:18:52PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
No, I cannot. I *can*, and have, forward on reports by those more in
the know than I that estimate 100K new bots / day are being added, and
I
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on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:15:34PM -0500, Hannigan
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:18:52 EST, Hannigan, Martin said:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
Well, it was a while ago that some Polish guys were openly advertising
their 465K zombie network - I'd be most surprised if it isn't over 1M by
now.
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:46:00PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
quoting me:
Um, not 1 million bots - in concert.
And you know this how, exactly? I'm sure not convinced.
http://w3.cambridge-news.co.uk/business/story.asp?StoryID=65877
Lycos Europe's 20 million users will all be
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On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:18:52PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
Nobody can, except the single master who's in control of same, and
whoever that is -- if there is -- is unlikely to voluntarily share
that
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As for go180.net, you don't show up much
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Justin Ryburn wrote:
This is what scares me. Who determines the bad guys? I don't know anyone
over at Lycos so I have no trust (or lack there of) in Lycos. Who is to say
that Lycos won't decide next month that Yahoo, Google, MSN, _insert your own
network here_ are bad guys
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