On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 07:34:19AM -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:53:33AM -0700, David W. Hankins wrote:
> ...
> > It's like someone intentionally optimized this function specifically to
> > be the most pessimal.
> ...
>
> If you know the word "pessimal" [malus, pejor, p
How about this? I will not post anything to NANOG that "discounts the hysteria."
Yall will take the bird flu discussion (and the discussion of the meaning,
origin and proper usage of "pessimal" for crissake) elsewhere. Deal?
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
...I don't mean to add to the hysteria, but
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:06:25AM -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote:
> Joseph S D Yao wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:53:33AM -0700, David W. Hankins wrote:
> >...
> >>It's like someone intentionally optimized this function specifically to
> >>be the most pessimal.
> >...
> >
> >If you know the word
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 07:51:06AM -0700, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> Joseph S D Yao wrote:
(stuff)
...
> where it took off. I don't mean to add to the hysteria, but I also would
> prefer that you not discount it. Much will depend on your local area, on
> whether people are tightly clustered (NYC, LA
Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:53:33AM -0700, David W. Hankins wrote:
...
It's like someone intentionally optimized this function specifically to
be the most pessimal.
...
If you know the word "pessimal" [malus, pejor, pessimus = bad, worse,
worst], you should know that "mo
Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:29:10PM -0400, Barry Shein wrote:
According to the wikipedia's quote of WHO the weighted average
mortality rate, which would be across 50 human cases, is 66% in 2006,
and 56% across all 194 cases reported since 2004.
Is there a report which e
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:29:10PM -0400, Barry Shein wrote:
>
> According to the wikipedia's quote of WHO the weighted average
> mortality rate, which would be across 50 human cases, is 66% in 2006,
> and 56% across all 194 cases reported since 2004.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.or
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:53:33AM -0700, David W. Hankins wrote:
...
> It's like someone intentionally optimized this function specifically to
> be the most pessimal.
...
If you know the word "pessimal" [malus, pejor, pessimus = bad, worse,
worst], you should know that "most pessimal" is redund
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:57:01AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That recirculated air is likely to be shared with the
> rest of the buildings inhabitants, not just the engineers.
I'd say it's 50/50 from the buildings I've worked in.
The Commonwealth Building in Portland Oregon actually put
> According to the wikipedia's quote of WHO the weighted average
> mortality rate, which would be across 50 human cases, is 66% in 2006,
> and 56% across all 194 cases reported since 2004.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1
All of this pandemic planning is *NOT* about the H5N1
> Uhh... I think, I _hope_ that we are talking about 40% of your
> workforce NOT SHOWING UP TO THE OFFICE for days or weeks, not
> dropping dead, not even necessarily getting sick.
During the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic, and estimated 20 to 50
million people died worldwide. Every year, ordinary flu
> So if you're really expecting something as macro as 40% of the
> population dropping dead I think one has to think much bigger and much
> more in the realm of unexpected consequences.
> Most companies don't go under because they lose a lot of their
> revenue, they're often dead due to losing a
> So there you have it. They're likely to come to work even though
they're
> sick (presuming they don't know it's a lethal virus), where they work
and
> spend all their face-to-face time in close quarters with recirculated
air
> with the rest of the company's engineers.
That recirculated air
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:55:11 -1000, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > According to the wikipedia's quote of WHO the weighted average
> > mortality rate, which would be across 50 human cases, is 66% in 2006,
> > and 56% across all 194 cases reported since 2004.
> >
> >
> According to the wikipedia's quote of WHO the weighted average
> mortality rate, which would be across 50 human cases, is 66% in 2006,
> and 56% across all 194 cases reported since 2004.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1
is this different if you run is-is as opposed to os
According to the wikipedia's quote of WHO the weighted average
mortality rate, which would be across 50 human cases, is 66% in 2006,
and 56% across all 194 cases reported since 2004.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1
--
-Barry Shein
The World | [EMAIL PR
On 4/18/06, Crist Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uhh... I think, I _hope_ that we are talking about 40% of your
> workforce NOT SHOWING UP TO THE OFFICE for days or weeks, not
> dropping dead, not even necessarily getting sick.
>
> A 40% mortality rate among otherwise healthy adults, and we ha
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:53:33 PDT, "David W. Hankins" said:
> So, which 40% can you afford to lose? How likely is it that the 60%
> that's left behind will be able to do the job? Will they need step-by-
> step instructions so that even an untrained monkey can muddle through?
As we all find out t
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 12:43:11PM -0700, Crist Clark wrote:
> Barry Shein wrote:
> >So if you're really expecting something as macro as 40% of the
> >population dropping dead I think one has to think much bigger and much
> >more in the realm of unexpected consequences.
>
> Uhh... I think, I _hop
Sorry! I should have said that my deadline was early this morning (EST.)
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Crist Clark wrote:
Barry Shein wrote:
[snip]
So if you're really expecting something as macro as 40% of the
population dropping dead I think one has to think much bigger and much
more in the realm
Barry Shein wrote:
[snip]
So if you're really expecting something as macro as 40% of the
population dropping dead I think one has to think much bigger and much
more in the realm of unexpected consequences.
Uhh... I think, I _hope_ that we are talking about 40% of your
workforce NOT SHOWING UP
On April 18, 2006 at 10:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David W. Hankins) wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:05:41PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
> >Back to the original question, how well could you cope for such
> > an event? It's always challenging to think about what would happen
> > as sometimes
Hello;
On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:53 PM, David W. Hankins wrote:
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:05:41PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
Back to the original question, how well could you cope for such
an event? It's always challenging to think about what would happen
as sometimes it includes the une
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:05:41PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
> Back to the original question, how well could you cope for such
> an event? It's always challenging to think about what would happen
> as sometimes it includes the unexpected.
All the guidance suggests you're going to lose as mu
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:34:45 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian said:
> Probably sell them a product where b/w is burstable to a much higher
> level - at least for short periods of time, to deal with sudden use
> spikes (or to create extra capacity for those periodic trojan
> outbreaks that will otherw
On 4/18/06, Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Vendors like it because it's a revenue boost. It obviously requires
> build-ahead
> capacity and maintenance of overload capacity that will likely sit
> idle for 99%
> of it's life span. Who pays?
>
> [ ..hears ISP product managers scurry
> I think a lot of people would love to know just how they plan
> to make that happen. :-)
Well, they could require companies to test their
ability to handle homeworking by having employees
work from home on some kind of rota system. This
would change traffic patterns quite a bit and that
could c
At 09:50 PM 4/17/2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, David W. Hankins wrote:
> In a www.washingtonpost.com article:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/s2jpz
>
> It is said:
>
> President Bush is expected to approve soon a national pandemic
> influenza response plan
At 09:50 PM 4/17/2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
How about this idea... are your corporate VPN services (assuming there is
one aside fromm 'ssh to the bastion host' of course) prepared to
double/quadruple/more-uple their normal concurrent user counts? During the
fallout of Katrina we observed
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, David W. Hankins wrote:
> In a www.washingtonpost.com article:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/s2jpz
>
> It is said:
>
> President Bush is expected to approve soon a national pandemic
> influenza response plan that identifies more than 300 specific
> tasks fo
> (Back in the days of dial-up, I had a lot of trouble
> connecting to Bell Labs on snow days. No rule, and the place
> was officially open for business. But everyone just did the
> rational thing.)
I think the point is to start capacity and contingency planning now. Is
your VPN infrastru
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:05:41 -0400, Jared Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Back to the original question, how well could you cope for such
> an event? It's always challenging to think about what would happen
> as sometimes it includes the unexpected.
>
Quite. One case of bird flu in
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 10:07:38AM -0700, David W. Hankins wrote:
> In a www.washingtonpost.com article:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/s2jpz
>
> It is said:
>
> President Bush is expected to approve soon a national pandemic
> influenza response plan that identifies more than 300 spec
Oh, that _is_ rich. ;-)
I think a lot of people would love to know just how they plan
to make that happen. :-)
- ferg
-- "David W. Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In a www.washingtonpost.com article:
http://tinyurl.com/s2jpz
It is said:
President Bush is expected to app
In a www.washingtonpost.com article:
http://tinyurl.com/s2jpz
It is said:
President Bush is expected to approve soon a national pandemic
influenza response plan that identifies more than 300 specific
tasks for federal agencies, including [some stuff and] expanding
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