Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-28 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Jeftovic) writes: > Verisign sold off NetSol to Pivotal Private Equity last year for 100 > million, which takes them out of the registrar space and leaves them > as the registry. it'll be several quarters, and one audited annual report, before we'll know how much control

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Michael Painter
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/special_report/Stratton_Sclavos.html

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
> Verisign is really two entities wrt .com/net - it is the registry and the > registrar. Verisign Registrar, aka Network Solutions, was sold off to Pivotal Private Equity last Fall. Other lines of analysis to attempt: o what are "registry services" and what are not. o if a "reg

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Mark Jeftovic
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: > Verisign is really two entities wrt .com/net - it is the registry and the > registrar. As a registrar it occupies the same position as the many other > registrars.. tucows, melbourne, joker etc .. as a registry it occupies a > privileged position in

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
> Not, I hasten to add, that I support Sitefinder or WLS (although I think I > like "consolidate"). But what I like isn't the issue. Even if having Just to recap here, this thread plus the articles I'm reading miss one of the major points (a commercial one essentialy).. Verisign is really tw

Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Deepak Jain
Since no one else has mentioned this: http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Neil J. McRae
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html can't say I'm surprised. Another nail in the Verisign coffin.

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Jay Hennigan
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Deepak Jain wrote: > Since no one else has mentioned this: > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html Looks like I need to stock up on popcorn. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 8

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread John Neiberger
Neil J. McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/26/04 3:03:52 PM >>> > >> http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html > >can't say I'm surprised. Another nail in the Verisign coffin. They must have taken a page from the recently-released book "How to Shoot Your Company in the Foot," by SCO. *

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Deepak Jain wrote: > > Since no one else has mentioned this: > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html And I'm sure ICANN will remember it for long time - right up to the point when Verisign's contracts for .com/.net management are up for renewal. -- Willia

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Roman Volf
When are they up for renewal exactly? william(at)elan.net wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Deepak Jain wrote: Since no one else has mentioned this: http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html And I'm sure ICANN will remember it for long time - right up to the point when Verisign's co

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Scott Call
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Roman Volf wrote: > > When are they up for renewal exactly? November 10, 2007, according to http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/registry-agmt-com-25may01.htm -S

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Vixie
in response to... > http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040226/tech_verisign_2.html X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4; nmh 1.0.4; GNU Emacs 21.3.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil J. McRae) writes: > can't say I'm surprised. Another nail in the Verisign coffin. it's not nearly that simple. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("John Neiberger") add

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread william(at)elan.net
For ICANN/Registry agreements see here: http://www.icann.org/registries/agreements.htm Specific agreements & all technical specs Verisign agreed to follow: http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/com-index.htm http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/net-index.htm And based on tha

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread John Kinsella
Any way to speed that up? ;) John On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 03:57:12PM -0800, Scott Call wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Roman Volf wrote: > > When are they up for renewal exactly? > November 10, 2007, according to > http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/registry-agmt-com-25may01.htm

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread David Schwartz
By the way, do we even know what we're talking about? Specifically, has VeriSign produced a set of specifications for exactly what SiteFinder is and does? For example, is it guaranteed to return the same A record for all unregistered domains? Is it guaranteed that that A record w

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, John Kinsella wrote: > > > When are they up for renewal exactly? > > November 10, 2007, according > > Any way to speed that up? ;) http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/registry-agmt-com-25may01.htm "16. Termination ... B. In the event of termination by DOC of its

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
The lawsuit is not premature to the extent that 1. VRSN were told (however justly) to cease and desist Site Finder 1.0 or else face consequences. 2. VRSN were told they couldn't implement the "Consolidate" service without making other concessions [according to the complaint the service allowed

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("william(at)elan.net") writes: > ... > And based on that Verisign rule over these tlds ends in November 2007 no. See page 19 of: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID475281_code70168.pdf?abstractid=475281 i think that verisign and icann are stuck with each other,

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Deepak Jain
Scott Call wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Roman Volf wrote: When are they up for renewal exactly? November 10, 2007, according to http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/registry-agmt-com-25may01.htm -S I think as far as Verisign is concerned, they might not be an ongoing concern in 200

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-26 Thread Randy Bush
> By the way, do we even know what we're talking about? that is not needed to flame folk such as verisign. lynch mobs look pretty good until you are the one on guantanamo. randy