On Thursday 08 Sep 2005 3:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And when the corporate executives have a legal and moral obligation to
generate income for the stockholders (barring a stockholder's resolution
or other similar instrument dictating otherwise), what is one to do when
vast profits and
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:19:46AM +0100, Simon Waters wrote:
On Thursday 08 Sep 2005 3:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And when the corporate executives have a legal and moral obligation to
generate income for the stockholders (barring a stockholder's resolution
or other similar
On Sep 8, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Michael Greb wrote:
Except, they don't in the United States corporations have a legal
obligation to put profits above all else. They are legally
forbidden to
put morality above profit. These laws are severyly in need of some
adjustments.
You deeply
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:59:21PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
But when presented with *that* request from *that* government, the correct
response -- from anyone with a conscience and a spine -- is go to hell.
Apparently you aren't familiar with police techniques in China.
When presented with
Way OT, but very interesting- don't know if anyone saw this article about
Yahoo collaborating with the Chinese government's police (from the BBC):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4221538.stm
If this is true, I for one will stop using Yahoo- I have spent alot of time
in Asia
This is not shaping up to be a very good month for
Yahoo! all the way around -- at least PR-wise:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20050907/0246214_F.shtml
- ferg
-- Bob Arthurs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Way OT, but very interesting- don't know if anyone saw this article about
Yahoo
So, if you email friends in China from a Yahoo account, you have been
warned!
What makes you think that gmail.com, mail.ru or
your-isp.net is any different? Trust in human
nature, perhaps?
Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions
in which they do business, and for
However, clearly, companies doing business in China under this set of
rules are placing profits ahead of human rights. I, for one, will avoid
patronizing any organization I know to be engaged in such practices.
Owen
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:10:12PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions
in which they do business, and for international
companies, that list of jurisdictions can be very,
very long.
Obeying the (local) law is, in most cases, very
On Sep 7, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:10:12PM +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions
in which they do business, and for international
companies, that list of jurisdictions can be very,
very long.
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:54:03AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
However, clearly, companies doing business in China under this set of
rules are placing profits ahead of human rights. I, for one, will avoid
patronizing any organization I know to be engaged in such practices.
Owen
There has
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:05:48PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Sep 7, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:10:12PM +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions
in which they do business, and for international
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
So, let's do the logic, as this is a simple schoolchild exercise.
[snip]
Therefore, if one is in mainland China to do business, then one does not
have a conscience or a spine.
It is probably that one does not have a conscience, is insane and does
Personally, I see doing business in China about as logical as, say, giving
430 6th graders laptops with Internet access, and expecting them to pay
attention in the classroom... Oh, and cutting the sports programs to
afford those laptops. Man, if someone had given me a laptop in 6th grade,
I
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:07:41AM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
Personally, I see doing business in China about as logical as, say, giving
430 6th graders laptops with Internet access, and expecting them to pay
attention in the classroom... Oh, and cutting the sports programs to
afford those
D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt
secret police
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:38:17 -0400
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:07:41AM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
Personally, I see doing
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:38:17 EDT, Joseph S D Yao said:
I do hate the lack of respect for human rights shown by the mainland
Chinese government, and the slave labor prisons otherwise known as
cheap labor. And the lack of self-respect that allows others to turn
a blind eye to this for their
Bob Arthurs wrote:
I should add that my original statement pertains to (obviously) the
Chinese *government* alone! I am concerned about the repression that the
Chinese people experience, and the basic freedoms that they lack.
As far as 'China hate' is concerned- this definately doesn't
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