Weasel, like the sun implementation, allows remote reboot of wedged
machines. This is key, particularly when running on an Intel platform
cough. If there are any PC serial console implementations that
allow one to do this, I'd like to hear about it, since I'm not aware
of such. Buying a serial
On Mon Mar 22, 2004 at 12:11:04PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One serial port is for a daisy-chained
serial bus that can allow one control module to talk
to other boxen.
Personally, I have a major dislike for daisy-chained control buses like this.
All it needs is one box at the start of
IMHO the right way to do this is to build the power cycling
capability into the individual 1U boxen. Again, we
should be talking to the embedded systems folks to
give them a standard set of requirements that everyone
can support.
See Sun Netra LOM. Done.
This may be worth having a
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:: IMHO the right way to do this is to build the power cycling
:: capability into the individual 1U boxen. Again, we
You've probably seen it already, but nonetheless:
http://www.rackable.com/products/compute.htm
-jba
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:: IMHO the right way to do this is to build the power cycling
:: capability into the individual 1U boxen. Again, we
You've probably seen it already, but nonetheless:
http://www.rackable.com/products/compute.htm
this is IPMI. tons of motherboard manufactures do this today (i just
don't
John Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While I do prefer a real serial LOM kit (i.e.: Sun Microsystems)
...
RealWeasel is too expensive (even with the hypothetical NANOG
discount) though extremely nice. As previously mentioned, I can
purchase an entire system with serial console built
many servers are also starting to feature IPMI [EMAIL PROTECTED] which
allows for the remote console (that provides the VGA output slow.. only
good for emergencies or for Windows servers) and power cycling of servers.
Compaq/HP includes this feature in their Proliant servers, and many other
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hanulec) writes:
many servers are also starting to feature IPMI ...
if somebody posts a summary of command/control options for remote colo boxes
i'd love to include it, or a pointer to it, at www.vix.com/personalcolo.
i like the pc-weasel but i admit that my main
many servers are also starting to feature IPMI ...
i'm happy to add to the registry a list of things like pc-weasel and rtty and
rocketport, but i'd like to have some confidence that it's a comprehensive
list, which means that someone more familiary with the field has to build it.
--
If someone
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Personal Co-location Registry
many servers are also starting to feature IPMI ...
i'm happy to add to the registry a list of things like pc-weasel and
rtty and
rocketport, but i'd like to have some confidence that it's
On 2004-03-20-18:42:10, Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If someone is doing this, especially wrt to 1U servers, perhaps
someone could provide a pointer to a reboot solution that would
allow a single reboot device to control 42+ 1Us in a single
rack. From my occasional interest in this
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 04:02:37PM -0800, Micah McNelly wrote:
You could use dual vertical PDU's with serial management connected to a 1u
serial console / KVM solution. There are a few vendors working on PDU's with
IP / SNMP based management solutions but I don't think they have been
I can imagine what a rack full of 1U's from varying vendors
with different cable management systems would be like.
It can be tricky. Single vendor helps, even simpler if it's all Sun -
http://www.bogons.net/pics/bogons_20021205b.jpg
http://www.bogons.net/pics/bogons_20031005a.jpg
Sun Netras
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Kelly Setzer wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:07:31AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vixie writes:
I agree, lack of interactive access to a system prior to a functional OS
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Krzysztof Adamski wrote:
The pc-weasel does not work in all motherboards also.
It does require a 5volt 32bit pci slot. and a ps/2 keyboard port, and it
won't work with an ami-winbios among other things...
In many respects the weasel is begining to show it's age, but
Joel Jaeggli wrote:
The killer feature (that I'm willing to pay monay for for one of these
products) is having a unit that can remotely power-cycle the box when the
os is totally hung. We used to do this (and still do), with serially
Recent Compaq systems with integrated remote ILO provide a
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
As of March 17 2004
Total personal colo listings: 36
Total providers with one or more addresses block listed: 18
The eighteen providers are sometimes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vixie writes:
I agree, lack of interactive access to a system prior to a functional OS
being loaded always seemed like a potential problem area to me,
particularly for something based on common PC architecture.
http://www.realweasel.com/ is your friend.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:07:31AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vixie writes:
I agree, lack of interactive access to a system prior to a functional OS
being loaded always seemed like a potential problem area to me,
particularly for something
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Kelly Setzer wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:07:31AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vixie writes:
I agree, lack of interactive access to a system prior to a functional OS
being loaded always seemed like a potential
i've already removed one that was seen on ROKSO (23 listings).
i don't consider the lists you gave to be credible, but if any
of the entries in the personal colo registry show up on ROKSO or
SBL or MAPS or SORBS, you can bet i'll remove them instantly.
re:
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Hello All ,
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Kelly Setzer wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:07:31AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
...snip...
Is there an effective alternative? All the intel servers these days
seem to have one of those handy-dandy
Realweasel is a great idea if you can afford it -- but the PCI version
lists for $350, which is as expensive as some used 1U servers on EBay.
my bet is that if you refer to nanog and www.vix.com/personalcolo when you
contact them, they'll cut you a deal. (note: i have no affiliation w/
Hi!
i've already removed one that was seen on ROKSO (23 listings).
i don't consider the lists you gave to be credible, but if any
of the entries in the personal colo registry show up on ROKSO or
SBL or MAPS or SORBS, you can bet i'll remove them instantly.
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
Tyan ( another I can't remember now) have console forwarding to
the com1 port . This MB is available in PenguinComputing's 1u
2u systems . They run *BSD just fine as well . Hth , JimL
Many of Intel's server boards
At 9:51 AM -0600 on 3/18/04, Kelly Setzer wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:07:31AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vixie writes:
I agree, lack of interactive access to a system prior to a functional OS
being loaded always seemed like a potential problem
i've already removed one that was seen on ROKSO (23 listings).
i don't consider the lists you gave to be credible, but if any
of the entries in the personal colo registry show up on ROKSO or
SBL or MAPS or SORBS, you can bet i'll remove them instantly.
...
Even if the COLO space might
sorry for off-topic post, but..
hey paul, why are you blocking mail from 12.129.199.61 and
65.160.228.34?
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/18/2004 10:45 AM
mail39-haw-R.bigfish.com #5.0.0 X-Postfix; host
sa.vix.com[204.152.187.1] said: 553 Service
hey paul, why are you blocking mail from 12.129.199.61 and
because att's abuse desk ignored me for too long.
65.160.228.34?
because sprint's abuse desk ignored me for too long.
i'll give sprint a second chance (i've removed that /16 from my personal
blackhole list and see what happens) but
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:20:51PM +, Paul Vixie wrote:
Realweasel is a great idea if you can afford it -- but the PCI version
lists for $350, which is as expensive as some used 1U servers on EBay.
my bet is that if you refer to nanog and www.vix.com/personalcolo when you
contact
People seem to be forgetting the obvious.
Buy a 1U SPARC box. That'll do full console as you're talking about.
They're simple to connect up to your Cisco console too. Ebay for
'netra'.
1U Alphas (DS10L) are also quite nice.
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
Realweasel is a great idea if you can afford it -- but the PCI version
lists for $350, which is as expensive as some used 1U servers on EBay.
It'd be better if it had an ethernet port on it and allowed ssh access
to the console, like the remote ILO stuff on compaq
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Kelly Setzer wrote:
This is relevant, if tangential, to the current discussion on 1U colo
for remote ops/looking glass/etc.
[...]
4) One nanog member indicated that I am an idiot.
Personally, I recently priced intel server systems from a variety of major
vendors
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
notes:
(1) even in germany they call them 19 inch racks, thus setting the clock
back several decades.
(2) i'm very interested in listing more non-US locations
(3) i'm interested in listing
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vixie writes:
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
notes:
(1) even in germany they call them 19 inch racks, thus setting the clock
back several decades.
(2) i'm very interested in listing more
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (TxRx Lists) writes:
One thing you may want to devote a bit more text to: what are typical
provisions for remote hands at these places?
that's one item. others are serial console access, remote power cycle,
whether an appointment/escort is required for on-site
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