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om>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>>well, a copy of "the bell technical journal" with the first
>>paper describing unix is on my shelf.
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>On my bookshelf too.
>
>I believe this was more of a "technical reports" series
>than a referreed journal since it contained only
>well, a copy of "the bell technical journal" with the first
>paper describing unix is on my shelf.
On my bookshelf too.
I believe this was more of a "technical reports" series
than a referreed journal since it contained only work
being done by the one organization. A lot of universities
and
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:18:59 -0600
"Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Golding writes:
> >
> >>Slightly off-topic...
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> >>Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
> >>inte
> > What ever happened to the blue, paper-back-book-sizes
> > periodical, "Proceedings of the Bell Laboratories" or
> > summatlikethat?
> >
> > (H...I wonder which library _those_ are buried in.)
>
> well, a copy of "the bell technical journal" with the first
> paper describing unix is
At 10:29 PM +0100 3/26/04, Randy Bush wrote:
> What ever happened to the blue, paper-back-book-sizes
periodical, "Proceedings of the Bell Laboratories" or
summatlikethat?
Bell System Technical Journal.
>
(H...I wonder which library _those_ are buried in.)
well, a copy of "the bell tec
> What ever happened to the blue, paper-back-book-sizes
> periodical, "Proceedings of the Bell Laboratories" or
> summatlikethat?
>
> (H...I wonder which library _those_ are buried in.)
well, a copy of "the bell technical journal" with the first
paper describing unix is on my shelf.
ran
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Golding writes:
Slightly off-topic...
Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Golding writes:
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>Slightly off-topic...
>
>Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
>interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
>the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do these sorts of pub
At 10:45 AM + 3/25/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
precedence over content.
Vijay hit it on the head - have we all been foolish by trying to put our
collect
-
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Date: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:27 am
Subject: Re: Publish or (gulp) Perish
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> >> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed
> journal>> submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend
> to take
>
>> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
>> submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
>> precedence over content.
>Attention to sidebar on page 192 of the Columbia Accident
>Investigation Board report entitled "Engineering by Viewgraphs":
>ht
>> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
>> submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
>> precedence over content.
>Vijay hit it on the head - have we all been foolish by trying to put our
>collective expression of service provider best practi
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Irwin Lazar wrote:
For what it's worth, in many cases, you can also put your ideas into
an Internet-Draft (www.ietf.org). You don't get the "publish or
perish" brownie points from those (at least as far as I know), but at
least you have a way of sending out the idea. May
[ mark had posting problems and asked me to post for him ]
To: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Mark Allman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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cc: "Matthew F. Ringel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Publish or (gulp) Perish
We
>> I'm leaving off "news" publications like Light Reading and Network World.
>> Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
>> journals obsolete? :)
>
> My favorite journal is the NANOG slide presentations. They are
> nice abstracts of someone's work, much better than th
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Golding writes:
>
>Slightly off-topic...
>
>Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
>interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
>the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do these sorts of pub
I'm leaving off "news" publications like Light Reading and Network World.
Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
journals obsolete? :)
Don't forget SysAdmin, altho it's waning as its page size has continuously
decreased. http://www.samag.com/
Rob Nelson
[EMAIL P
At 11:33 AM 3/24/04, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
vijay gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
> submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
> precedence over content.
Attention to sidebar on page 192 of the Colu
It is my firm believe that if a Powerpoint presentation was to say "The
Ocean is made of Yogurt", it would be believe by management. I believe
next time I give a presenation I will put that line in.
- Robert
On 24 Mar 2004, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
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> vijay gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wri
Hi,
#Powerpoint has its place, but it's not really a
#format for the distribution of research information. The information
#density just isn't there. That, and without the audio of the
#presentation to go along with the slides, most of the actual content
#is lost.
That doesn't *have* to be the
vijay gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
> submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
> precedence over content.
Attention to sidebar on page 192 of the Columbia Accident
Investigation Board report entit
> I believe that NANOG should have an actual journal of some kind,
> likely with issues on a thrice-yearly basis. I'd wager that most
> NANOG presentations have a paper's worth of information backing
> them.
researchers publish in real journals with academic peer review, and
would get no brownie
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 03:01:56PM -0500, Daniel Golding wrote:
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> Slightly off-topic...
>
> Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
> interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
> the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do the
On 3/24/04 9:50 AM, "vijay gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 03:01:56PM -0500, Daniel Golding wrote:
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> [ various journals ]
>
>
>> Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
>> journals obsolete? :)
>
>
> Powerpoints have a hard time m
>> Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
>> journals obsolete? :)
> Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
> submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
> precedence over content.
Power corrupts; Powerpoint corrup
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 03:01:56PM -0500, Daniel Golding wrote:
[ various journals ]
> Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
> journals obsolete? :)
Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
submission, because with the powerpoint,
>I'm leaving off "news" publications like Light Reading and Network World.
>Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
>journals obsolete? :)
My favorite journal is the NANOG slide presentations. They are
nice abstracts of someone's work, much better than the traditiona
ACM SIGCOMM CCR is a good venue to publish early results
of research and the editorial process is quick.
IEEE, but it's a little on the expensive side if you pay your own dues...
http://ieee.org/portal/index.jsp
http://www.comsoc.org/
http://www.comsoc.org/~ni/
scott
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Daniel Golding wrote:
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: Slightly off-topic...
:
: Most technical fields have standard journals that they
Daniel Golding wrote:
Slightly off-topic...
Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do these sorts of publications
exist in the networking/carrier
Slightly off-topic...
Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do these sorts of publications
exist in the networking/carrier/internetworking spac
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