stop the CC'ing Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread John Brown (CV)
Hey folks, can you please stop the CC'ing of people that have responded to this thread. Just reply to NANOG. On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:36:50AM -0500, joshua sahala wrote: Peter Galbavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A willingness, nay - a NEED, to learn and be open to new concepts is what

Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Timothy R. McKee
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 11:36, joshua sahala wrote: Peter Galbavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acronyms mean sh*t. When involved in any hiring process, I actively avoid CCIE/MSCE/etc. laden resumes. Mentioning once, fine. Using them like religious phrases is an indictation of, well, stupidity.

Re: stop the CC'ing Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vadim Antonov [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nanog List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: stop the CC'ing Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ] Ironic, isn't it? -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com

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2003-11-10 Thread Randy Bush
Hey folks, can you please stop the CC'ing of people that have responded to this thread. Just reply to NANOG. procmail is your friend # -- # # prevent dupes # :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 65536 msgid.cache # #

RE: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Fisher, Shawn
AM To: joshua sahala Cc: Peter Galbavy; Richard Irving; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine; Vadim Antonov; John Brown (CV); Nanog List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ] On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 11:36, joshua sahala wrote: Peter Galbavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acronyms

Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake 'Timothy R. McKee' [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree certifications are overated at best. Give me someone with the right attitude and I'll teach him anything. Showing the ability to get things done is the greatest skill imo. Unfortunately, most recruiters and even hiring managers have no

Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:51:55PM -0500, Fisher, Shawn wrote: I agree certifications are overated at best. Give me someone with the right attitude and I'll teach him anything. Showing the ability to get things done is the greatest skill imo. I once read the following and saved it away...

Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Matt Levine
On Nov 10, 2003, at 2:38 PM, Daniel Roesen wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:51:55PM -0500, Fisher, Shawn wrote: I agree certifications are overated at best. Give me someone with the right attitude and I'll teach him anything. Showing the ability to get things done is the greatest skill imo.

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2003-11-10 Thread Wesley Vaux
: This may be stupid but.. ] On Nov 10, 2003, at 2:38 PM, Daniel Roesen wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:51:55PM -0500, Fisher, Shawn wrote: I agree certifications are overated at best. Give me someone with the right attitude and I'll teach him anything. Showing the ability to get things

Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

2003-11-10 Thread Jay Hennigan
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Matt Levine wrote: So what you're saying is you want cisco to certify people's integrity? :) Bether them than Belkin. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 WB6RDV NetLojix

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2003-11-10 Thread Owen DeLong
Of Wesley Vaux Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:24 PM To: Matt Levine Cc: Nanog List (E-mail) Subject: RE: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ] I once was in a class sitting beside a CCIE that asked me what the command syntax was. I have no faith in the certified. -- If this message was not signed

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2003-11-10 Thread Simon Hamilton-Wilkes
weeding out the nutjobs and BS artists leaves a pretty small pool. Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ] As someone who