Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

"N. Richard Solis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTW, counter-to-counter service isn't always handled as luggage. In a > few cases the package is hand-carried over to the cargo terminal where > it's put on the next flight out. Then it's held for you at the > destination, NOT put out on the

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

I've only shipped a few (moderately) heavy things on short notice in my career. Almost all of those involved FedEx because it was simple and hassle-free. If we're talking about shipping palettes of equipment then I agree with the use of air cargo. It wasn't entirely clear from the first po

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

Various war-story authors wrote: > > My experience is a 40% damage rate when shipping Cisco 7507 > > and 7513 routers via FedEx Heavy. Here are some pictures from back > > when I was at AboveNet: http://www.seastrom.com/fedex/ > > > >You aren't alone: > >http://www.16paws.com/FedEx/ > > Althoug

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At 08:32 PM 8/27/2003, Eric Kuhnke wrote: http://colofinder.net/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album18 Although this is a small item, I believe it wins the contest for "Most thoroughly damaged shipment". Oh dear! Yes, I do think you are the winner (so far). just me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

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http://colofinder.net/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album18 Although this is a small item, I believe it wins the contest for "Most thoroughly damaged shipment". :-) > My experience is a 40% damage rate when shipping Cisco 7507 > and 7513 routers via FedEx Heavy. Here are some pictur

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On 27 Aug 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: "N. Richard Solis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FedEx will be your best bet. Trust me. FedEx Heavy = "pay a surcharge for heavy boxes, get it moved by a 120 pound delivery person with a handtruck rather than a pallet jack or other appropriat

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:56:09 PDT, nanog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > ps. Is this operational? :) It's *NON* operational if they drop the gear. :) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > Do you really mean counter to counter, or do you mean Real Air Freight > (like going to the United Air Cargo facility behind Gate Gourmet in > the same strip as FedEx out at IAD)? Real Air Freight (tm) rocks my > world. Going in

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> I still fail to see why I would choose an organiztion with handles hundreds > of times more packages, most weighing less and being less breakable than > mine, over one with the specialized equipment to move it. An air cargo > carrier with heavy-cargo equipment is still less likely to drop a pal

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

> I was wondering if anyone could provide any advice or suggestions on > shipping heavy/bulky equipment (~300 pounds, about a half-rack worth of > gear) on short notice cross-country? We're obviously looking to minimize > cost, but realistically it can't be in transit for more than two days. Are

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Ray Wong wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:31:58PM -0500, Andy Walden wrote: > > On 27 Aug 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > > Yes, but my point is that you can stack the deck in your favor by > > > using a company that uses appropriate material handling devices to > > >

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On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:31:58PM -0500, Andy Walden wrote: > On 27 Aug 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > Yes, but my point is that you can stack the deck in your favor by > > using a company that uses appropriate material handling devices to > > move every package if you are shipping packages

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > I'm not sure if any of them are here, or if they would make their > info known...but I'm sure vendors have some good data. I know > Cisco's online ordering tool has about a bazillion (and yes, that's > the right term) shippers, and I'm sure they trac

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

On 27 Aug 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > Andy Walden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes, but my point is that you can stack the deck in your favor by > using a company that uses appropriate material handling devices to > move every package if you are shipping packages that are heavy enough >

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

I'm not sure if any of them are here, or if they would make their info known...but I'm sure vendors have some good data. I know Cisco's online ordering tool has about a bazillion (and yes, that's the right term) shippers, and I'm sure they track the number of problems reported. No doubt other ve

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Excellent points; didn't cross my mind since I've had (personal) accounts with Delta and United for ages now. Probably a call to ForwardAir, Cavalier, or EGL would get you their rules of engagement too. You might want to try http://www.khcargo.com/ for non-passenger air cargo.

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Andy Walden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's it Rob, let it all out. ;) I can certainly empathize, as I have > have my bad experiences with Fedex as well. We also use Emery on a > regular basis for the big things also. The bottom line is, like vendors, > all shippers can suck at times...it r

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A counter-to-counter shipment on a passenger airline is a thing of the past (at least from my experiences going directly to the passenger airlines). After Sept 11 the FAA has required that passenger airlines only accept shipments from "known shippers" (unless this has changed in the last 14 mont

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

On 27 Aug 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > FedEx Heavy = "pay a surcharge for heavy boxes, get it moved by a 120 > pound delivery person with a handtruck rather than a pallet jack or > other appropriate freight handling equipment... and dropped off the > truck". My experience is a 40% damage ra

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

"N. Richard Solis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FedEx will be your best bet. Trust me. FedEx Heavy = "pay a surcharge for heavy boxes, get it moved by a 120 pound delivery person with a handtruck rather than a pallet jack or other appropriate freight handling equipment... and dropped off the

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:19 PM > To: 'Matthew Zito' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear? > > > I have used Federal Express to great effect in the past. I > have tended to stay away f

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Matthew Zito wrote: > > Hello, > > I've had good luck shipping ~600 lbs of gear next day with Eagle Global Logistics. (http://www.eagleusa.com) It was fairly reasonably priced, too. HTH, Gabriel -- Gabriel Cain www.dialupusa.net Systems Administrator

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I have used Federal Express to great effect in the past. I have tended to stay away from Airborne because the local people here in Dallas didn't know not to turn printers full of toner on their sides. Since Airborne packed them, I felt they should not have been full of toner, but that is another s

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We recently (beginning of July) acquired a small hosting company (about 100 servers) based in New Jersey. This was a very short-notice, literally overnight move of many servers, and customers, from New Jersey to the west coast. We used Airborne Express to overnight shi

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

At 11:19 AM 8/27/2003, Matthew Zito wrote: I was wondering if anyone could provide any advice or suggestions on shipping heavy/bulky equipment (~300 pounds, about a half-rack worth of gear) on short notice cross-country? We're obviously looking to minimize cost, but realistically it can't be in

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

I've shipped LOTS of heavy datacenter gear via FedEX cross countryb4 without problems as well. -Jim -Original Message- From: Deepak Jain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:08 PM To: Matthew Zito; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cross-country shippi

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

- From: "Temkin, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'N. Richard Solis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Matthew Zito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Cross-country shipping of

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

We've shipped (using Fedex International Freight) 300+lb pallets of Sun gear without any untoward delays or problems. Multiple times. The pricing was excellent and the service (once they knew freight was involved) was fine. I think bad experiences with fedex have more to do with the statistical

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ross-state, and international. Choose carefully. -Original Message- From: N. Richard Solis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:27 PM To: Matthew Zito Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear? FedEx will be you

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Matthew Zito wrote: > I was wondering if anyone could provide any advice or suggestions on > shipping heavy/bulky equipment (~300 pounds, about a half-rack worth of > gear) on short notice cross-country? We're obviously looking to minimize > cost, but realistically it can't

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

FedEx will be your best bet. Trust me. You COULD do a counter to counter shipment via an airline cargo desk. That MIGHT be cheaper but you will still have to transport it from your spot to their pickup and back again on the other side. Rail is not an option because it is across country. Groun