On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Kim Onnel wrote:
> The links are now almost always fully utilized, we want to do some QoS to
> cap our ADSL downstream, to give room for the Corp. customers traffic to
> flow without pain.
While some people will cry network neutrality and think the Yellow Pages
must sell only
Sean, I think your post highlights a major, yet very
seldom discussed, distortion of some of the more recent issues that surface
when discussing neutrality. And these are widely shared in the industry, imo. IMO, you
have adequately characterized the matter, as many would regard it today. Bu
On Tuesday, 29-November-2005 14:30, Frank Coluccio wrote:
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Please refrain from using HTML when posting..
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> While some people will cry network neutrality and
> think the Yellow Pages
> must sell only one size listing, some people are
> willing to pay for
> differentiated service. Trying to classify "bad"
> traffic can be
> done using products like Sandvine. But it may be
> easier to classify "pr
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Joe Shen wrote:
> To Kim's situation, IP packet header based (or access
> interface based) traffic classification is pratical.
> If application based traffic classification is
> required, tools from sandvine or packeteer may have to
> be sitted between ERX1440 and Cisco7609. I
Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none solution to cap
the download stream traffic, our upstream will not recieve marked
traffic from us, so what can be done ?On 11/29/05, Kim Onnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello everyone,
We have Juniper ERX as BRAS for ADSL, its GigE interfa
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> To: NANGO
> Subject: Re: QoS for ADSL customers
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> Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none
> solution to cap the download stream traffic, our upstream
> will not recieve marked traffic from us, so what can be
done ?
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>
> On 11/29/05, Kim Onnel
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>> Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none> solution to cap the download stream t
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> Our ADSL customers traffic is 3 OC3 worth of traffic, I
dont
> think our management would buy the idea.
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> thanks
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> On 12/1/05, Ejay Hire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hello.
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Subject: RE: QoS for ADSL customers
I got an off-list reply about using Nbar, but I've never seen a class map
that would match torrent.
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Sean Donelan wrote:
The problem with waiting until the PE or BRAS to do the classification is
most access providers use traffic aggregation in the access network (e.g.
ATM/DSL, Cable, WiFi, etc). This means the interfaces on the BRAS or PE
are oversubscribed and the access network interface w
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Kim Onnel wrote:
Our ADSL customers traffic is 3 OC3 worth of traffic, I dont think our
management would buy the idea.
Any way you do limiting depending on any level over L3, you're going to
fail in the long run (people will start to move ports around or go
encrypted).
M
To: Ejay Hire
Cc: 'Kim Onnel'; 'NANGO'
Subject: RE: QoS for ADSL customers
There are a bunch of p2p and torrent custom classifier pdlm's at
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/pdlm
Quoting Ejay Hire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> I got an off-list reply a
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Kim Onnel wrote:
> Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none solution to cap the
> download stream traffic, our upstream will not recieve marked traffic from
> us, so what can be done ?
Step 1: Please identify how you identify your Corp. customers.
Once you exp
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Ejay Hire wrote:
> Going back to your original question, how to keep from
> saturating the network with residential users using
> bittorrent/edonkey et al, while suffocating business
> customers. Here goes.
I still don't see the requirement for application level classificatio
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Kim Onnel wrote:
>
> > Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none solution to cap the
> > download stream traffic, our upstream will not recieve marked traffic from
> > us, so what can be done ?
>
> Step 1: Please ident
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kim Onnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We have Juniper ERX as BRAS for ADSL
>Our humble approach was to collect some p2p ports and police traffic to
>these ports, but the traffic wasnt much, one other thing is rate-limiting
>per ADSL customers IPs, but that wasnt su
eferences on this.. The netfilter website (for
> classification info) and the Linux advanced router
> tools
> (LART) (qos info/rate limiting)
>
> -e
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> > -Original Message-
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On
Behalf Of Kim Onnel
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:26 AM
To: NANGO
Subject: Re: QoS for ADSL customers
Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or
none
solution to cap the download stream traffic, our
upstream
will not recieve marked traffic from us,
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:50 AM
> To: Joe Shen
> Cc: Ejay Hire; 'Kim Onnel'; 'NANGO'
> Subject: RE: QoS for ADSL customers
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> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Joe Shen wrote:
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> > Could IPtables control traffic with inspecting layer7
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Ejay Hire wrote:
There are quite a few modules for iptables that will reach
up to Layer 7, including several specifically for file
sharing applications...
And one really nifty one that makes non-passive ftp work
through NAT.
These are "action" modules - they receive the
Somebody else emailed me privately link for L7 filtering with linux
(its all experimental and requires custom linux patches for now):
http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/L7-HOWTO-Netfilter
Also in previous post it was supposed to be:
For ebtables it is http://ebtables.sourceforge.net (this is
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