Daniel Golding' '; ''Alex Rubenstein' '; ''Andy Dills' ';
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Subject: RE: Qwest Transit
I meant any sales guy selling transit would "like to"
ask for strict traffic ratios, while in reality, they
don't actual
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 09:35:17PM -0700, Gironda, Andre wrote:
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> I meant any sales guy selling transit would "like to" ask for strict
> traffic ratios, while in reality, they don't actually do this.
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> Your email is right on otherwise. I do believe that many transit
> offerings in the past
I meant any sales guy selling transit would "like to"
ask for strict traffic ratios, while in reality, they
don't actually do this.
Your email is right on otherwise. I do believe that
many transit offerings in the past and currently
require some kind of strict traffic ratio to *some*
companies
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 07:48:49PM -0700, Gironda, Andre wrote:
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> All ISP's selling transit ask for strict traffic ratios. How often do
> you think they get what they ask for? I would guess not very often.
> People like flat rate 95th% with no minimal commitment (both the seller
> and buyer
; From: Daniel Golding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:52 PM
> > To: 'Alex Rubenstein'; 'Gironda, Andre'
> > Cc: 'Andy Dills'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Qwest Transit
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> > Hmm. Coge
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Golding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:52 PM
> To: 'Alex Rubenstein'; 'Gironda, Andre'
> Cc: 'Andy Dills'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Qwest Transit
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> Hmm. Cogent does
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> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:08 PM
> To: Gironda, Andre
> Cc: 'Andy Dills'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Qwest Transit
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> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Gironda, Andre wrote:
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> > We probably get Qwest transit cheaper than you,
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Gironda, Andre wrote:
> We probably get Qwest transit cheaper than you, and yes, it is the
> cheapest in the industry.
I really, really, really, really doubt this.
An obvious rebutt to this, which I won't even take seriously is, of
course, Cogent. Don't reply to this sect
PM
To: Andy Dills
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Qwest Transit
Andy,
Qwest is handing out "bargain" deals like hotcakes these days... But
before you get lured in ask yourself..
are you willing to buy from other non tier-1 providers? It isn't hard to
find pipe under 50/meg th
I'd appreciate a copy as well...
At 01:45 4/4/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Bear in mind that the financial situation at Qwest is bad.
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> >Isn't that partially due to deals with Enron on which they
> >misrepresented sales numbers?
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>Partially, but not primarily. The lead front page article in the
On 4 Apr 2002, John R. Levine wrote:
> Partially, but not primarily. The lead front page article in the
> Wednesday WSJ is about how badly mismanaged Qwest is. The gist of it
> is that US West was a sleepy RBOC with mediocre management, then Qwest
> which was what one might call a dot.fiber bu
Please send a copy
--On Thursday, 04 April 2002 01:45 -0500 "John R. Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> Bear in mind that the financial situation at Qwest is bad.
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>> Isn't that partially due to deals with Enron on which they
>> misrepresented sales numbers?
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> Partially, but not p
>>Bear in mind that the financial situation at Qwest is bad.
>Isn't that partially due to deals with Enron on which they
>misrepresented sales numbers?
Partially, but not primarily. The lead front page article in the
Wednesday WSJ is about how badly mismanaged Qwest is. The gist of it
is that
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Steve Sobol wrote:
> I wouldn't touch Qwest, based on the Enron issue, if nothing else.
I am pretty sure you can make a case that other Tier1s did the same thing.
This isnt unique to Qwest or Enron.
Christian
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i am me, i dont write/speak for them
At 04:36 PM 4/2/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Bear in mind that the financial situation at Qwest is bad.
Isn't that partially due to deals with Enron on which they
misrepresented sales numbers?
>We certainly know from experience that a major financial upheaval can
>affect operations at least indirectly
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:38:01PM -0800, Gironda, Andre wrote:
We probably get Qwest transit cheaper than you, and yes, it is the
cheapest in the industry. Not too bad considering Qwest is definitely
in the top ten largest Tier 1 providers, and probably even the 3rd or
4th largest
Bear in mind that the financial situation at Qwest is bad. They are
getting ready to take an estimated $20 to $30 billion writeoff
on accounting restatements (mostly of "goodwill") and will probably be
sanctioned by the SEC, as indicated in wire stories today.
http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/20
Andy,
Qwest is handing out "bargain" deals like hotcakes these days... But
before you get lured in ask yourself..
are you willing to buy from other non tier-1 providers? It isn't hard to
find pipe under 50/meg these days if you stroke your local sales monkey
properly.
Also, look around at oth
We probably get Qwest transit cheaper than you, and yes, it is the
cheapest in the industry. Not too bad considering Qwest is definitely
in the top ten largest Tier 1 providers, and probably even the 3rd or
4th largest transit-AS networks according to a recent CAIDA study:
http://www.caida.org/
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:45:32PM -0500, Andy Dills wrote:
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[...]
> Can anybody speak positively or negatively about the quality of Qwest
> transit? We ordered a metered ds3 for a backup circuit, but with
> the pricing I'm seeing, I'm really tempted to localpref and prepend our
> announceme
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Andy Dills wrote:
> Ok, we have an opportunity to get Qwest bandwidth amazingly cheap.
[...]
> Can anybody speak positively or negatively about the quality of Qwest
You may want to also consider economic factors, as described in this article:
http://www.forbes.com/2002/04/
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