Re: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:56:49PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And if enough people clean up the bots on their network, > then a case can be made for depeering (or severely damping) > networks that don't clean up their act. Agreed. But few, if any, will "clean up their act". For instance,

Re: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > "Based on my conversations last week, Comcast's network engineers > would like to be more aggressive. But the marketing department > shot down a ban on port 25 because of its circa $58 million price > tag--so high partially because

Re: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread Paul Vixie
> > "Based on my conversations last week, Comcast's network engineers > > would like to be more aggressive. But the marketing department > > shot down a ban on port 25 because of its circa $58 million price ... > > Thats quite ok, if theyre unwilling to filter port 25 on their end, we

RE: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread Blake L. Smith - XtremeBandwidth.com, Inc.
400 Office 949-606-7100 Fax www.XtremeBandwidth.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at

RE: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread J. Oquendo
> "reconfigure their mail programs to point at Comcast's > servers, and each phone call to the help desk costs $9." And they couldn't spend say: $1.00 per CD with a vb script or instructions on doing this $100.00 (far fetched price) to have an interactive step-by-step flash video created to s

RE: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread D. Campbell MacInnes
> > > "reconfigure their mail programs to point at Comcast's servers, and > > each phone call to the help desk costs $9." > > > And they couldn't spend say: > > $1.00 per CD with a vb script or instructions on doing this > > $100.00 (far fetched price) to have an interactive > step-by-step

Re: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread J.D. Falk
On 12/06/04, "Blake L. Smith - XtremeBandwidth.com, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since Comcast allows spamming (doesn't do anything to stop it) people > should start spamming the phones at the help desk and let them know > about the spam on their network. Although - two wrongs don't make

Re: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-06 Thread Joshua Brady
Or why don't they just create the $0 flash video or html step by step instructions? Why doesn't the dummy series create "Comcast for dummies", as they have for AOL users. On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:45:30 -0500, D. Campbell MacInnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "reconfigure their m

RE: Unflattering comments about ISPs and DDOS

2004-12-07 Thread Michael . Dillon
> Even at an uber high charge (800/866 toll) of say $4.00 per call, they > could still implement the changes save tons of money, and tons of aspirin > when their headaches go away. Maybe someone here can draft up a > $10,000,000.00 pitch it to them become an instant millionaire and save > Comcast