Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, k claffy wrote: > remark it is also possible for the (forward or reverse) > path to change in the middle of the measurement, > such that traceroute output would lead you > to believe a path that never existed anywhere > on the Internet (i.e., one that is not manifested > in th

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Lane Patterson
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 10:31:12AM -0400, Darrell Carley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to troubleshoot a latency issue for some of our networks, > and was wondering about this.Knowing that routing isn't always > symmetrical, is it possible for a traceroute to traverse a different > re

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread alex
> > > > > According to definition, is should take the same path, but are there any > > > > > other cases that I should be aware of? > > > > > > > > According to the definition, it is going to show you the path the packets > > > > took from you to the destination, not from the destination back. >

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Arnold Nipper
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 08:43:01AM -0700, k claffy wrote: > > remark it is also possible for the (forward or reverse) > path to change in the middle of the measurement, > such that traceroute output would lead you > to believe a path that never existed anywhere > on the Internet (i.e., one that i

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread David Howe
at Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: >> Unless you did "- g", > Not correct. -g specifies loose source routing on the way *there*, > not back. No, you can get both if you ping *yourself* with the actual destination as -g. this gives you both

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread k claffy
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 07:45:39AM -0700, Stephen Stuart wrote: Traceroute sends UDP datagrams and receives ICMP datagrams in order to show you what it shows you. It is possible for the ICMP datagrams to return via a different path than the UDP datagrams took outbound (it is also possi

RE: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Kris Foster
> a traceroute shows the outbound route. it's possible for the the probe > packets to follow one path and the returning icmp packets to take another > path. a looking glass in the AS your tracing to is a good way to see what > the return path is... The returning ICMP packets may take many differe

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Andy Johnson
There used to be an old flag you could set on an ICMP_ECHO request to record the path the echo reply takes back (ping -R or -r?), but apparently its not used much anymore. Probably just as well.. it could only hold ~8 hops..   Andy - Original Message - From: Darrell Carley

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Martin
$author = "Darrell Carley" ; > > I am trying to troubleshoot a latency issue for some of our networks, > and was wondering about this.Knowing that routing isn't always > symmetrical, is it possible for a traceroute to traverse a different > reverse path, than the path that it took to get there?

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 10:58:03AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to definition, is should take the same path, but are there any > > > > other cases that I should be aware of? > > > > > > According to the definition, it is

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread alex
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > According to definition, is should take the same path, but are there any > > > other cases that I should be aware of? > > > > According to the definition, it is going to show you the path the packets > > took from you to the destination, not from t

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Nipper, Arnold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > According to definition, is should take the same path, but are there any > > other cases that I should be aware of? > > According to the definition, it is going to show you the path the packets > took from you to the destination, not from the destination back.

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread Stephen Stuart
> I am trying to troubleshoot a latency issue for some of our networks, > and was wondering about this.Knowing that routing isn't always > symmetrical, is it possible for a traceroute to traverse a different > reverse path, than the path that it took to get there? Traceroute sends UDP datagrams

Re: question concerning traceroute?

2002-10-17 Thread alex
> According to definition, is should take the same path, but are there any > other cases that I should be aware of? According to the definition, it is going to show you the path the packets took from you to the destination, not from the destination back. Alex