Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering)

2005-10-08 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: Rather than speculation, it would be helpful to refer to the actual contracts. Please post the relevant sections, Mr Wilcox. the contract talks of on-net

Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering)

2005-10-08 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that the ideal here would be for the industry to agree on a dispute resolution mechanism and for all bilateral peering agreements to include the same arbitration clause. For this kind of arbitration to function well, the arbitrators

Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering)

2005-10-07 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, JC Dill wrote: IMHO all L3 customers have a valid argument that Level 3 is in default of any service contract that calls for best effort or similar on L3's part. can you cite the relevant

Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering)

2005-10-07 Thread Michael . Dillon
Rather than speculation, it would be helpful to refer to the actual contracts. Please post the relevant sections, Mr Wilcox. the contract talks of on-net traffic, off-net traffic and excused outages excused outages includes that of third party network providers off-net traffic has

Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering)

2005-10-07 Thread William Allen Simpson
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote: Rather than speculation, it would be helpful to refer to the actual contracts. Please post the relevant sections, Mr Wilcox. the contract talks of on-net traffic, off-net traffic and excused outages excused outages