Just another opportunity to grab some funding. The two major events at
our local facility the past year have been the result of drivers taking
out major power poles on the street adjacent to the facility. One even
ended up in the parking lot. UPS/gen sets worked as planned so little
impact on
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:26:16 EST, batz said:
You will miss script kids that bounce all over their compromised
machines around the world, but even if you collected all the information
about those attacks, there is little value in tracking them down anyway.
The interjurisdictional
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:26:16 EST, batz said:
The interjurisdictional administrative hell makes it more cost
effective to just lock down your network than to re-enact The Cuckoos
Egg.
Unfortunately, this is (or should be) part of the threat model. What
makes
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Regarding CenterTrack:
:
:its not that they misinterpretted, its that its NOT EVER been implemented.
I am content to believe you. However, that CenterTrack has never been
implemented does not mean that a system for collecting IP session data
Also, this threat can be mitigated more cost effectively through
system and network hardening than by expanding the monitoring
infrastructure to be able to handle such a difficult to
codify threat (in any general sense).
I agree totally. However, it's unglamorous, and not as sexy of an
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, batz wrote:
Lets say you have a an IDS load balancer sitting on a GigE span
port with a few sensors watching everything go by. If an alert is
triggered, a script is executed which goes out to the router closest
to the origin of the session and initiates the overlaid
BRAVO FRED You encapsulated this well...now its up to us.
The bureaucracy is bound to forge ahead in establishing the police-state,
we do NOT have to help them...
At 14:30 12/20/02 -0800, you wrote:
I have restrained from saying this so far but... I told you so.
When I attended the
Also, if you want to monitor massive amounts of data (something
people say can't be done easily) you just demux it using a device
like those at www.toplayer.com, or
http://www.radware.com/content/products/fire.asp .
Both solutions are adequate for breaking up massive amounts
of data.
I could
[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes
will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?]
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/20/technology/20MONI.html?pagewanted=printposition=top
December 20, 2002
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David Lesher wrote:
[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes
will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?]
I read this in the paper this morning. The article is a summary
The -real- challenge is to create a system -capable- of monitoring
the entire internet Today there isn't enough horsepower to
accomplish such a thing, except by exception to the rule,
rather than the rule.
In analogy: We can adjust the flows of the Hoover
(remember him ?) Damn, we cannot
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:12:43AM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes
will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?]
Freud, your slip is showing ?
:P
Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Richard Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In analogy: We can adjust the flows of the Hoover
(remember him ?) Damn, we cannot however stop to count
damn is an expletive, dam is a noun. :)
Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:12:43AM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
But it is good for a laugh.
Or a cry.
:) :* :(
FWIW, One American Government Legislative body,
all full of itself, had all but passed an act
requiring the value of PI to be legislated to 3,
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:31:39 MST, Wayne E. Bouchard said:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:12:43AM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes
will you need to make? What will they
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David Lesher wrote:
:[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
:with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes
:will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?]
There is a really easy way to accomplish this, and it has been
Cough!
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, batz wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David Lesher wrote:
:[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
:with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes
:will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?]
There is a
I have restrained from saying this so far but... I told you so.
When I attended the Oakland NANOG in October 2001, I had just
returned from Washington DC. The trip originally was for my
brother's wedding but I extended it for some personal lobbying on
the so-called USA PATRIOT bill as it
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Cough!
Sure, or they could ask carriers to tap lines for them silently... in fact
they can do that today with a court order.
Nope. USA Patriot Act, No Court Order Needed.
:(
Civil Liberties for Tax Refunds, Takers ? :P
A COO I know is actually
Methinks they'll try the Russian SORM model. Since this country is hell
bent on establishing a police-state, this seems logical. Why not use the
one thats been developed?
http://www.libertarium.ru/eng/sorm/
:[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared
:with the router
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
:Cough!
Heh. Bless you. ;)
:This is incorrect, this isn't implemented, its not implementable, current
:routing gear doesn't gre tunnel a) fast enough, b) at all HOWEVER,
:juniper will allow you to copy packets on an interface in 5.5 or
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, batz wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
:Cough!
Heh. Bless you. ;)
its this damned changing weather :)
:This is incorrect, this isn't implemented, its not implementable, current
:routing gear doesn't gre tunnel a) fast enough, b) at all
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