Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-03 Thread Gerald
I keep trying to think of how this discussion could be operationally relevant. The only thing I could come up with is: Will reverting back to the proper NXDOMAIN break anything? I have only seen inconveniences on my network since they changed, though I know some had it worse than I did. For the

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-03 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
Well, considering that large numbers of community members here installed the BIND patch (and patches for other vendors software) the day it was released, I think we're just fine with this. :-) On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:03:16PM -0400, Gerald wrote: > > I keep trying to think of how this discussio

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-03 Thread Gerald
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: > Well, considering that large numbers of community members here > installed the BIND patch (and patches for other vendors software) the > day it was released, I think we're just fine with this. :-) I am personally thrilled they are reverting. I also

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-03 Thread Mike Batchelor
--On Friday, October 03, 2003 7:36 PM -0400 Gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just wanted to point out if anyone did something other than just patching bind and moving on, consider the repercussions of Verisign reverting or you might have your weekend plans averted to undo your changes. Gerald C

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-03 Thread bmanning
> I have confidence in the bind patch not breaking bind when Verisign > reverts back, but there were some pretty rash suggestions when the > sitefinder service first came online. (Paul, bind won't break when this > goes back to normal will it?) ask yourself how many DNS admins are going t

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Piotr KUCHARSKI
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:34:07PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ask yourself how many DNS admins are going to go pull out > the "-delegation" stanzas from their configs? Or that > will use them to lie about other delegations that use wildcards > as long as that code i

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Rob Payne
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:48:52PM +0200, Piotr KUCHARSKI wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:34:07PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ask yourself how many DNS admins are going to go pull out > > the "-delegation" stanzas from their configs? Or that > > will use them to lie abou

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread bmanning
> > > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:34:07PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ask yourself how many DNS admins are going to go pull out > > the "-delegation" stanzas from their configs? Or that > > will use them to lie about other delegations that use wildcards > > as long as tha

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Paul Vixie
> > And what possible problems are you expecting with leaving > > zone "com" { type delegation-only; }; > > zone "net" { type delegation-only; }; > > in the configuration? > > > > They should be delegation-only in any case, shouldn't they? that was the basis of the enhanced version of the featur

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Piotr KUCHARSKI
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:39:33AM -0400, Rob Payne wrote: > At some point in the future you might think back on this as someone > who said, "What possible problems would there be in hard-coding this > list of bogon filters? 69.0.0.0/8 should be reserved, shouldn't it?" IP space might have been

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Piotr KUCHARSKI
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:29:45AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > zone "com" { type delegation-only; }; > > zone "net" { type delegation-only; }; > well, thats up to the zone admin. :) Everything is. :) > my concern is mostly along the lines of folks who will do things like: > zone "waw.pl"

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Piotr KUCHARSKI
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:24:18PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > zone "com" { type delegation-only; }; > > > zone "net" { type delegation-only; }; > > > They should be delegation-only in any case, shouldn't they? > that was the basis of the enhanced version of the feature, which is spelled > "roo

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread bmanning
> > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:29:45AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > zone "com" { type delegation-only; }; > > > zone "net" { type delegation-only; }; > > well, thats up to the zone admin. :) > > Everything is. :) glad you agree. > > my concern is mostly along the lines of

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Piotr KUCHARSKI
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 12:39:21PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So you are questioning the "type delegation-only" functionality? Then > > it's a wrong address, stupidity will always be the biggest problem in > > the universe. > in a word, YES. and there have been/are lots of folks > who fa

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-04 Thread Paul Vixie
> Paul, I would not call "root-delegation-only" an enhancement. it's an enhancement in the sense that it's more complicated and it's more code and it came later in response to complaints about the earlier feature. > With "type delegation-only", you had to specifically name these and only > these

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-05 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Piotr KUCHARSKI) [Sat 04 Oct 2003, 20:51 CEST]: [..] > do arbitrary changes to them. Marking "com" and "net" as delegation-only > is not harming anything. (At least until ICANN changes its mind.) According to this mail: http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-06 Thread Joel Rowbottom
At 23:40 05/10/2003, Niels Bakker wrote: > do arbitrary changes to them. Marking "com" and "net" as delegation-only > is not harming anything. (At least until ICANN changes its mind.) According to this mail: http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg00532.html ... apparently it br

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-06 Thread Piotr KUCHARSKI
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 12:40:42AM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote: > > do arbitrary changes to them. Marking "com" and "net" as delegation-only > > is not harming anything. (At least until ICANN changes its mind.) > According to this mail: > http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg00

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-06 Thread Joel Rowbottom
At 15:52 06/10/2003, Piotr KUCHARSKI wrote: > > do arbitrary changes to them. Marking "com" and "net" as delegation-only > > is not harming anything. (At least until ICANN changes its mind.) > According to this mail: > http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg00532.html > ... app

Re: Will reverting DNS wildcard have any adverse affects?

2003-10-06 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Rowbottom) [Mon 06 Oct 2003, 22:34 CEST]: > At 15:52 06/10/2003, Piotr KUCHARSKI wrote: > do arbitrary changes to them. Marking "com" and "net" as delegation-only is not harming anything. (At least until ICANN changes its mind.) >>> According to this mail