shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

http://gallery.colofinder.net/shameful-cabling had a great collection of "What not to do" photos, but it has apparently evaporated in the mists of time. Anybody know if it's at a new location, or is the Wayback Machine my only hope? (ISTR it also had an adjacent "cabling done right" gallery - doe

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/really-bad-wiring-jobs_20.html On 9/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://gallery.colofinder.net/shameful-cabling had a great collection of > "What not to do" photos, but it has apparently evaporated in the mists of > time. Anybody kn

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/really-bad-wiring-jobs_20.html > My contribution: Note this was the closet at a group on the Hill that lobbies against the evils of regulation. In 25-

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, David Lesher wrote: Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/really-bad-wiring-jobs_20.html My contribution: Note this was the closet at a group on the Hill that lobbies a

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

> http://www.tux.org/wb8foz/66-666/a.jpg > > ah, security through obscurity, a time honored strategy! > > - lucy > residents are not allowed phones? --bill

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/really-bad-wiring-jobs_20.html My contribution: When I use to work at Caesars Palace here in Las Vegas, I was witness to some rather ugly cabling jobs.

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

Note that telcos are not immune to shoddy cabling/installation work. The link below is from a dial/T1 POP at I place I worked in several years ago. In case the detail is hard to make out, the paper sign taped to the ladder says "DO NOT MOVE LADDER". The background is that Bell Atlantic mou

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - From: "Justin M. Streiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Note that telcos are not immune to shoddy cabling/installation work. http://www.cluebyfour.org/~streiner/mbr-pop-2000-ladder.JPG Do that at the telco

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

Scott Weeks wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - > From: "Justin M. Streiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Note that telcos are not immune to shoddy cabling/installation work. > > > > http://www.cluebyfour.org/~streiner/mbr-pop-2000-ladder.JPG > --

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On Sep 10, 2007, at 12:34 AM, Vinny Abello wrote: One of the stranger things a field tech of ours encountered wasn't necessarily bad wiring (although it's not great), but the fact that the demarc was located next to the toilet in the bathroom. Naturally, the constant humidity caused bad co

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

We used to have a POP under somebodys stairs in Bristol in the UK and another POP in the loft of a friend of one of the employees. They sold their house and the POP stayed there and the new owners knew nothing about it, imagine their surprise when a telco engineer turned up wanting to fix a fibre

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

One of the places where I worked had a bunch of networking gear and around 12x1U servers all squeezed into a shower stall There was a cardboard sign hanging from the faucet saying "WARNING!!! Do not turn on" W On Sep 10, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: We used to have a

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Warren Kumari > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:56 AM > To: Leigh Porter > Cc: Patrick Muldoon; Vinny Abello; nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know > where it went? > > > One of the pla

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Warren Kumari wrote: One of the places where I worked had a bunch of networking gear and around 12x1U servers all squeezed into a shower stall There was a cardboard sign hanging from the faucet saying "WARNING!!! Do not turn on" Not too far from the dial POP I mentio

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Alright, this is all scary familiar and bringing back bad memories. Wooden modem racks, POPs in disued bathrooms, demarcs so stuffed with wire (solder post, wrap, AND 66 blocks) that you can't find your cable, movin' cools exhausting hot air into a hall way just to get the POP down to 90... And t

RE: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

> Alright, this is all scary familiar and bringing back bad memories. > > Wooden modem racks, POPs in disued bathrooms, demarcs so stuffed with At one point, we had 200 pair installed into a two family house in rural NJ. The pop was in the basement, which had dirt floors. Or, the local phone co

Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On Tue, Sep 11, 2007, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > Or, the local phone company begging us to get lines in different CO's so > that we wouldn't overload inter-office trunks and tandems. Or the weekly exchange 'reboots' that happened at ~1am. the MRTG graphs of your dialins would show everyone logging

Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Weeks wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - > Note that telcos are not immune to shoddy cabling/installation work. > > http://www.cluebyfour.org/~streiner/mbr-pop-2000-ladder.JPG > > > Do that at th

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Scott Weeks wrote: It was brought to my attention that some of the folks here may not have ever seen good wiring, so I snapped a few photos of good wiring here and wrote a quickie web page for the photos. I couldn't get pictures of Ethernet wiring, but it's the same. Ex

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the local old-school Bell Atlantic/Verizon techs also did very clean work, but most of them took the early retirement packages that were offered 4-5 years ago. - That's what's happening here. A lot of the old-schoo

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On 11-Sep-2007, at 1514, Justin M. Streiner wrote: Some of the local old-school Bell Atlantic/Verizon techs also did very clean work, but most of them took the early retirement packages that were offered 4-5 years ago. This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36:45AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and > do cabling in a sane way) seems like an excellent topic for a NANOG > tutorial. I'd come, for sure :-) This is a topic that I am quite interested in. I have no

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

Does anyone know if any good resources on best-practices at this sort of thing? I'm pretty sure that others must've already figured out the trickier stuff that I've thought about. Most good cabling jobs require one thing- dedication. If you are willing to put in the time and effort, you can d

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36:45AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > > This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and > > do cabling in a sane way) seems like an excellent topic for a NANOG > > tutorial. I'd come, for sure :-) > > This is a topic that I am quite interested in

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

Then again, sometimes it requires a whole lot more dedication. In our case the racks we inherited were installed wrong (no space between them for vertical cable management). Getting our cabling organized meant welding our own cable management brackets that we could bolt onto the front of the

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

On 9/12/07, Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36:45AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > > This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and > > do cabling in a sane way) seems like an excellent topic for a NANOG > > tutorial. I'd come, for sure :

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

I'll post some pictures when I get a chance. http://www.neener.info/gallery/v/cagebrackets/ In case anyone cares- those are the brackets we made. -Don