RE: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-25 Thread David Freedman
>Why don't you just put your DNS servers in some other TLD and forget >about the problems of adding glue records to .net/.com? The name >of your DNS server can't really be that important. Because it would mean changing the nameservers for $stupid amounts of customer domains for which we are

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-25 Thread Randy Bush
Network Solutions appears to have some level of support for RRs because I am aware of domain names registered through them that have RRs. it is pushing glue to the parent zone, com et alia, that is the problem. Why don't you just put your DNS servers in some other TLD and forget

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-25 Thread Jeroen Massar
Bjørn Mork wrote: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Network Solutions appears to have some level of support for RRs because I am aware of domain names registered through them that have RRs. it is pushing glue to the parent zone, com et alia, that is the problem. Why don't

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-25 Thread Bjørn Mork
Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Network Solutions appears to have some level of support for RRs >> because I am aware of domain names registered through them that have >> RRs. > > it is pushing glue to the parent zone, com et alia, that is the > problem. Why don't you ju

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-24 Thread Randy Bush
Network Solutions appears to have some level of support for RRs because I am aware of domain names registered through them that have RRs. it is pushing glue to the parent zone, com et alia, that is the problem. randy

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 24, 2008 10:55 AM, Matt Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > >o netsol understands glue > > > > REGISTRY part of NetSol here, I think David means the REGISTRAR part no? > > To my knowledge, there is no registry part of Network Solut

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-24 Thread Matt Larson
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >o netsol understands glue > > REGISTRY part of NetSol here, I think David means the REGISTRAR part no? To my knowledge, there is no registry part of Network Solutions. Network Solutions and VeriSign are two distinct companies with distin

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-24 Thread Roque Gagliano
: Thu 1/24/2008 00:42 To: Jeroen Massar Cc: David Freedman; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness > And what if NetSol is your registrar that needs to add the glue!? it hurts when i hit my head with a hammer then stop hitting your head with a hammer time to c

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 08:15:41AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > >>ugly ugly ugly. tucows, wake up and smell the coffee! > >yes... :( also Joker, and everyone else :( > > how do we move this forward across the board? this is going to be a > serious impediment. It's a pitty IC

RE: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread David Freedman
To: Jeroen Massar Cc: David Freedman; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness > And what if NetSol is your registrar that needs to add the glue!? it hurts when i hit my head with a hammer then stop hitting your head with a hammer time to collect a list

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Randy Bush
And what if NetSol is your registrar that needs to add the glue!? it hurts when i hit my head with a hammer then stop hitting your head with a hammer time to collect a list of registrars who do this well and easily. randy

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Jeroen Massar
Randy Bush wrote: David Freedman wrote: Will somebody please, please PLEASE let me know what magic process for networksolutions are to get glue added, am on the 72nd hour of the phone game where questions are bouncing between: as far as i have been able to sort this o netsol unders

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Randy Bush
o netsol understands glue REGISTRY part of NetSol here, I think David means the REGISTRAR part no? wow! people actually pay those prices? ugly ugly ugly. tucows, wake up and smell the coffee! yes... :( also Joker, and everyone else :( how do we move this forward across the board?

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 23, 2008 2:08 PM, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Freedman wrote: > > > > Will somebody please, please PLEASE let me know what magic process for > > networksolutions are to get glue added, am on the 72nd hour of the > > phone game where questions are bouncing between: >

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Randy Bush
David Freedman wrote: Will somebody please, please PLEASE let me know what magic process for networksolutions are to get glue added, am on the 72nd hour of the phone game where questions are bouncing between: as far as i have been able to sort this o netsol understands glue

NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread David Freedman
Will somebody please, please PLEASE let me know what magic process for networksolutions are to get glue added, am on the 72nd hour of the phone game where questions are bouncing between: - What is a glue record? and - What is an record? $ dig +norec @a.gtld-servers.net. dot

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Joe Abley
On 18-Jan-2008, at 18:56, Randy Bush wrote: The .com/.net registry has supported RRs for over five years (since May, 2002). The issue you may be encountering is that not every .com/.net registrar supports them. way cool. do you happen to know if opensrs registrars have a path to do so

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
The .com/.net registry has supported RRs for over five years (since May, 2002). The issue you may be encountering is that not every .com/.net registrar supports them. way cool. do you happen to know if opensrs registrars have a path to do so? randy

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread David Conrad
Randy, On Jan 18, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Randy Bush wrote: i finally sent off an email, but have no response, yet. Should have gotten a response by now. If not, let me know. i have hope, as the team there now is pretty good. it's probably just my lack of talent at navigating that much layer

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Matt Larson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Randy Bush wrote: > >I don't know what the process is for getting IPv6 addresses associated > >with host records in the VGRS COM/NET registry, but it seems like good > >information to share here if you find a definitive answer. > > i will. i am trying to document ops proce

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
send url. get: http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-template.txt yay! that form still exists! thank you! i have had a whack at it and sent it in. wish me luck. what i need is the talent to find such things. thanks! i have this trembling fear that they will have some process where everyon

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Lucy Lynch
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Randy Bush wrote: It's the same process that is used to update a delegation in the root zone. For ccTLDs I believe there's some kind of web portal to allow such changes to be requested, but my experience is that the old text form also still works just fine. i actually

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
It's the same process that is used to update a delegation in the root zone. For ccTLDs I believe there's some kind of web portal to allow such changes to be requested, but my experience is that the old text form also still works just fine. i actually spent 20 minutes on the iana web site. a

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Joe Abley
On 18-Jan-2008, at 05:39, Randy Bush wrote: similarly for the root, as rip.psg.com serves some tlds. The request has to come from a TLD manager (anyone which uses rip.psg.com) i can go down the hall to the mirror and ask myself to ask me to do it. :) :-) but, of course, you would get

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
similarly for the root, as rip.psg.com serves some tlds. The request has to come from a TLD manager (anyone which uses rip.psg.com) i can go down the hall to the mirror and ask myself to ask me to do it. :) > but, of course, you would get a more authoritative reply from IANA. i am hoping

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 03:51:26PM +0900, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 10 lines which said: > similarly for the root, as rip.psg.com serves some tlds. The request has to come from a TLD manager (anyone which uses rip.psg.com) but, of course, you would get a more authorita

Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
Randy Bush wrote: for those of us who are trying to provide dual stack services, how the heck do we get v6 glue added to the gtlds? specifically, i want to add v6 glue for psg.com and rip.psg.com in the com zone. similarly for the root, as rip.psg.com serves some tlds. Depends on your reg

v6 gluelessness

2008-01-17 Thread Randy Bush
for those of us who are trying to provide dual stack services, how the heck do we get v6 glue added to the gtlds? specifically, i want to add v6 glue for psg.com and rip.psg.com in the com zone. similarly for the root, as rip.psg.com serves some tlds. randy