Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)

2009-01-24 Thread David Conrad
Jack, On Jan 23, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Jack Bates wrote: David Conrad wrote: Sad fact is that there are zillions of excuses. Unfortunately I suspect the only way we're going to make any progress on this will be for laws to be passed (or lawsuits to be filed) that impose a financial penalty

Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)

2009-01-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 8c5f1fec-ff51-4ba2-a762-c13bc275e...@virtualized.org, David Conrad writes: It would seem that as ISPs implement DPI and protocol-specific traffic shaping, they damage the arguments that they can make claiming they have common carrier status with the inherent immunities that