Re: [Nanog-futures] Draft Policy re individual sites

2009-05-02 Thread John Osmon
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 08:17:10PM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: [...] I'd prefer the MLC to treat each case on its merits, and to work with a light touch to keep the list useful. Do the MLC volunteers feel that this isn't working? It's not clear to me exactly what problem this proposed

Re: Slightly OT: Calculating HVAC requirements for server rooms

2009-05-02 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote: Translation: Hire a f***ing professional. And that's exactly what you need to do.  Qualified HVAC installers (with specific data center experience) will know far more than us network types will ever want to know about

Re: Re: Slightly OT: Calculating HVAC requirements for server rooms

2009-05-02 Thread joel . mercado
In modern data Centers drop ceiling is installed. The reason being you can create a AIR plenum. If your not going to have a air plenum then you should not have a drop ceiling. If you look at the in the link below you will see were the red arrows are thats were you would installed

RE: Slightly OT: Calculating HVAC requirements for server rooms

2009-05-02 Thread Frank Bulk
And when he writes professional, that might mean someone with more expertise than your average commercial HVAC shop. I've seen it countless times where general contractors do a great job on almost every aspect of the building but fail miserably when it comes to setting aside space for network

Re: Slightly OT: Calculating HVAC requirements for server rooms

2009-05-02 Thread Joe Greco
On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:32:19 -0400, William Warren hescomins...@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com wrote: Specifically, I am using the guide posted at: http://www.openxtra.co.uk/articles/calculating-heat-load Before you decide on an air conditioning unit you should commission an audit

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-02 Thread Ken Gilmour
For anyone who cares, IMEGA released the letter from the state of Minnesota: http://www.imega.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ab001dd4.pdf 2009/4/29 Ken Gilmour ken.gilm...@gmail.com: Hi there, I am just wondering if anyone knows any more about the attempt by Minnesota to block online

Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?

2009-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
What a pile of garbage. I would definitely get a legal review of a request like that before blocking any of my customer's traffic. -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc. Look for us at

RE: Slightly OT: Calculating HVAC requirements for server rooms

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Calculating heat load in a datacenter is pretty easy. That's not the hard part. Some comments: I am curious what formulas/equations folks use to figure out required cooling for small datacenters in offices. The simplest equation to use assumes that you know how much power is going into the

Re: RE: Slightly OT: Calculating HVAC requirements for server rooms

2009-05-02 Thread joel . mercado
Just knowing your spacing and were to places perforated tiles is very helpful in maxmizing air and not shortcycling it.. Establishing a Floor Plan [1]http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/VAVR-6KYMZ7_R0_EN.pdf May 2, 2009 08:41:50 AM, [2]a...@corp.nac.net wrote: Calculating

Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

2009-05-02 Thread trejrco
@Mikael - I agree 100% with the give them more than they know they need, so when they do need it we don't need to do anything (Nit-we are allocating from a /3 (2000::/3) today) @Matthew - Obviously, I (respectfully) disagree with treating IPv6 allocations that similarly to IPv4 allocations -

Re: 10-GigE for servers

2009-05-02 Thread Alan Hannan
The 10G cards from Neterion (http://www.neterion.com/products/xframeE.html) perform extremely well. Much of your potential limiting rate will be in the CPU and networking resources. I agree with many of the other folks that etherchannel should work exceedingly well, but if you want to

Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

2009-05-02 Thread James Hess
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: By definition, every single one of them that buys wireless router, then buys another and hangs it off the first. That happens more often then you would think. A /62 takes care of that unusual case, no real need for a /56

Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

2009-05-02 Thread Joe Maimon
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 2 May 2009, Matthew Palmer wrote: [1] Just because we've got a lot of it, doesn't mean we should be pissing it up against the wall unnecessarily. A motto for network engineers and economists alike. You can't be wasteful with something that you know is