Re: Verizon off-list contact requested

2010-11-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/3/10 6:51 PM, Edward A. Trdina III wrote: > Hello- > > Would someone with clue within the Verizon team contact me off-list, please? > I'm not seeing rDNS entries for "new" fios ip addresses. > You should probably start a new thread rather than burying your request inside a really long one

Re: Verizon off-list contact requested

2010-11-03 Thread Doug Barton
If you're going to start a new thread on a mailing list your best bet is to copy the list address to your address book, and create a new message. By replying to another message and changing the topic your message shows up "buried" under the thread you replied to. This is particularly bad when y

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> On Nov 3, 2010, at 5:21 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:01:32 PDT, Owen DeLong said: On Nov 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Act

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2010, at 5:21 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:01:32 PDT, Owen DeLong said: >>> On Nov 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: Actually PI is WORSE if you can't get it routed as it requires NAT or

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 3, 2010, at 5:21 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:01:32 PDT, Owen DeLong said: >> On Nov 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: >>> Actually PI is WORSE if you can't get it routed as it requires NAT or >>> it requires MANUAL configuration of the address selecti

Verizon off-list contact requested

2010-11-03 Thread Edward A. Trdina III
Hello- Would someone with clue within the Verizon team contact me off-list, please? I'm not seeing rDNS entries for "new" fios ip addresses. Regards, Ed Trdina

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:01:32 PDT, Owen DeLong said: > On Nov 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Actually PI is WORSE if you can't get it routed as it requires NAT or > > it requires MANUAL configuration of the address selection rules to be > > used with PA. > It's very easy to get PIv6 r

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <2ce5a700-eb60-453f-85cf-5e679e94e...@delong.com>, Owen DeLong > write > s: >> > =20 Actually, gethostbyname returns a linked-list and applications should try everything in the list until successfully connecting. Most

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Actually PI is WORSE if you can't get it routed as it requires NAT or > it requires MANUAL configuration of the address selection rules to be > used with PA. not everyone's network requires 'routed' ... wrt the internet.

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-03 Thread Crist Clark
>>> On 11/3/2010 at 1:10 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 02:21:14 pm Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: >> getting rid of bind has various other advantages, such as no longer >> needing tcp to transfer "zone files" (Retarded concept to say the least) >> so there are no more "tcp is

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <2ce5a700-eb60-453f-85cf-5e679e94e...@delong.com>, Owen DeLong write s: > > >>>=20 > >> Actually, gethostbyname returns a linked-list and applications should > >> try everything in the list until successfully connecting. Most do. > >>=20 > >> However, the long timeouts in the connectio

RE: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Richard Graves (RHT) wrote: Kinda makes me miss the old 6544 cluster controller that I turned into a kegerator/end table/lamp.. ;-) I know of a DEC PDP-11 and a Wellfleet BCN that met a similar end :) jms -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@sev

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Gary Baribault writes: > OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8 > bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax? Sorry bro, only Farallon PhoneNet and Gatorboxes here. -r

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Michael Sokolov wrote: Michael Painter wrote: Thick or Thin? Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present physical facility is just too small for that: my present coax Ethernet network is contained within a single machine room which is a converte

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 01/11/2010 15:21, Greg Whynott wrote: you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a bubble? Sadly, you're living in a bubble. As long as there are banks an

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 02:21:14 pm Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > getting rid of bind has various other advantages, such as no longer > needing tcp to transfer "zone files" (Retarded concept to say the least) > so there are no more "tcp issues" related to anycasting your authorative > dns se

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 04:55:02 pm Michael Sokolov wrote: > Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: > > > Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as > > late as 2007. > The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is a > coaxial Ethernet. Oh m

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:21:14 -, Sven Olaf Kamphuis said: > getting rid of bind has various other advantages, such as no longer > needing tcp to transfer "zone files" (Retarded concept to say the least) > so there are no more "tcp issues" related to anycasting your authorative > dns servers,

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Sokolov
Gary Baribault wrote: > And you live in a cabin in the woods, pedal a generator to get the > router up and the router is connected to a 56K Dial-up morem? I have never used those "56K" dial-up modems because they are asymmetric: it's only "56K" in the downstream direction, and I oppose that on p

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Gary Baribault wrote: > OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8 > bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax? No, but I remember controlling stacks of Mulitech modems with an Arcnet RJ-11 connection on Windows 3.1. I think the Arcnet hub is still ki

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Gary Baribault
OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8 bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax? I HATE soldering the terminating resistors... :-( Gary B On 11/02/2010 10:34 PM, Julien Goodwin wrote: > On 03/11/10 13:11, Express Web Systems wrote: The network I am using to compose and po

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Gary Baribault
And you live in a cabin in the woods, pedal a generator to get the router up and the router is connected to a 56K Dial-up morem? ;-) Gary B > Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: > >> Hats off!! You should post some pictures! > As in ASCII art pictures? Because my life revolves around ASCII text > a

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread John Payne
On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:08 AM, "Adcock, Matt [HISNA]" wrote: > To my knowledge Simplex Grinnell fire detection systems currently use token > ring. I can't believe I got through is thread (unless the iPhone threading is more broken than usual) without anyone mentioning the fibre channel over to

RE: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Adcock, Matt [HISNA]
To my knowledge Simplex Grinnell fire detection systems currently use token ring. The information in this email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure

RE: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Richard Graves (RHT)
Kinda makes me miss the old 6544 cluster controller that I turned into a kegerator/end table/lamp.. ;-) -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:15 AM To: Jacob Broussard Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Token ring? topic hija

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong
>>> >> Actually, gethostbyname returns a linked-list and applications should >> try everything in the list until successfully connecting. Most do. >> >> However, the long timeouts in the connection attempt process make >> that a less than ideal solution. (In fact, this is one of the main = >> re

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Karl Auer wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 09:03 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> About the only hack I can see that *might* make sense would be that home >>> CPE does NOT honour the upstream lifetimes if upstream connectivity is >>> lost, but instead keeps the prefix alive

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 04:14:51 + (UTC) Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > > I've had a recent experience of this. Some IPv6 CPE I was > > testing had a fault where it dropped out and recovered every 2 minutes > > - a transient network fault. I was watching a youtube video over IPv6. > > Because of the

RE: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread George Bonser
>Old > hardware > really interests me as I still have my first computer (laptop with > slide out > trackball, external scsi cd-rom, and 10base2 networking.) > Anyway back to lurking for me. > On Nov 3, 2010 1:21 AM, "Michael Sokolov" > wrote: I think I still have an old COSMAC ELF out in the gara