Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, Jeff Wheeler wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_IPv6_support_by_major_transit_providers 'Maximum Prefix Length' may be an over-simplifying metric. FWIW, we're certainly not a major transit provider, but we do allow /48 in the designated PI ranges but not in

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Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

At 14:01 21/12/2010 -0500, Scott Morris wrote: Actually it depends on the # of route injects and withdrawls. Sorry, couldn't help myself. -Hank Size doesn't matter. It's how well you use it. Route it, baby... ;) On 12/21/10 1:56 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 12/21/2010 11:32, Fran

RE: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

> HE routes missing on Cogents side? I would guess HE routes missing at Cogent and Cogent routes missing at HE. Remember the cake? http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Hurricane-Cake .jpg Or was that rectified? Mahtan? Randy

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 06:41:09PM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Contrary to popular belief the average person tend to severely dislike > all forms of road construction or having their yard repeatedly torn up. > > I know it's all happy fun times to say "let's have 10 water/electrical > providers

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

I could not find this information on any Wikis, but this is the sort of thing that would be nice to be able to find out without posting on the list or asking around (obviously.) I have quickly made a couple of entries with simple enough formatting that anyone can go onto Wikipedia, click Edit, and

RE: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Looks like AS13722 (Default Route, Inc), is advertising both 2607:ff08:cafe::/48 and 2607:ff08::/32. Frank -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:19 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons On 12/21/2010 7:1

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/21/2010 10:19, William Allen Simpson wrote: > The lesson here is that we need to decided what it is we are offering. As an > ISP, we never offered different rates by distance or for different types of > traffic. We did offer different rates for different sized pipes (aka volume). > That is,

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 12/21/2010 14:18, Frank Bulk wrote: >> There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one >> provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from >> public route-view servers. >> AT&T AS701

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/21/2010 10:49 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: Obviously, this probably won't happen. The Telcos in the US have far too powerful a lobbying force Owen Sad that we can admit this fact so freely.

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On 12/21/2010 7:10 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 12/21/2010 5:18 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from public route-view servers. AT&T AS7018: 2,851 (70.7%)

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Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On 12/21/2010 14:18, Frank Bulk wrote: > There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one > provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from > public route-view servers. > AT&T AS7018: 2,851 (70.7%) > Cogent AS174: 2,864 (71.0%) >

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On 12/21/2010 7:10 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 12/21/2010 5:18 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: >> There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one >> provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from >> public route-view servers. >> AT&T AS7018: 2,851

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On 12/21/2010 5:18 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one > provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from > public route-view servers. > AT&T AS7018: 2,851 (70.7%) > Cogent AS174: 2,864 (71.0%) >

RE: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Here's what I see: Level 3: 2949 HE: 3775 NTT: 3867 Init7: 3665 Mike -- Michael K. Smith - CISSP, GSEC, GISP Chief Technical Officer - Adhost Internet LLC mksm...@adhost.com w: +1 (206) 404-9500 f: +1 (206) 404-9050 PGP: B49A DDF5 8611 27F3 08B9 84BB E61E 38C0 (Key ID: 0x9A96777D) > -Ori

RE: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

The provider who gave me the information didn't tell me what public route server they used. They didn't analyze all ASNs, just the handful I listed. It would be interesting if someone set up a daily report that documented all the IPv6 routes an ASN carried, and then tracked both the absolute numb

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Not sure what route-server you are speaking of, but a quick peek at what we send on a customer session I see: NTT (2914) sends 3868 prefixes. If the route server contacts me in private, we can likely set up a view from 2914 or 2914-customer perspective. - Jared On Dec 21, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Fr

RE: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from public route-view servers. AT&T AS7018: 2,851 (70.7%) Cogent AS174: 2,864 (71.0%) GLBX AS3549: 3,706 (91.8%) Hurric

Re: TCP congestion control and large router buffers

On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Jim Gettys wrote: > >> Common knowledge among whom? I'm hardly a naive Internet user. > > Anyone actually looking into the matter. The Cisco "fair-queue" command was > introduced in IOS 11.0 according to >

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/20/2010 06:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > I'm happy for you. The AT&T cable plant in my neighborhood is unable to > sustain any better than 1.5mbps/384k on ADSL. And mine (older Baltimore-area, ex-bell atlantic, now verizon) won't sustain 384x384 at 15k ft, it works with about 10% packet loss

RE: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

> > > > Obviously, this probably won't happen. The Telcos in the US have far > > too powerful a lobbying force, but, I think that would be the best > > thing for the consumers. > > Presumably for both the consumers *and* every company involved in > network services who doesn't have the luck of a h

RE: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

--"Congestion == oversubscribed. I would love to see a public posting or notice or something on my ISP's website showing current flows and congestion (the Cacti driven Network Weathermap is one such tool I've seen networks use; one of my providers used to have one publicly available, and it was

Re: TCP congestion control and large router buffers

On 21 Dec 2010, at 07:18, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Jim Gettys wrote: Common knowledge among whom? I'm hardly a naive Internet user. Anyone actually looking into the matter. The Cisco "fair-queue" command was introduced in IOS 11.0 according to < http://www.cisco.com/en/

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:42:09AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > From: Leo Bicknell > > > > So if it's illegal for you to put a letter inside a FedEx box, > > Bzzt! It's -not- illegal to put a letter inside a FedEx box. It just has > to have the appropriate (USPS) postage on it, _as_well_

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Size doesn't matter. It's how well you use it. Route it, baby... ;) On 12/21/10 1:56 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 12/21/2010 11:32, Frank Bulk wrote: A week or more ago someone posted in NANOG or elsewhere a site that had made a comparison of the IPv6 BGP table sizes of different oper

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

On 12/21/2010 11:32, Frank Bulk wrote: > A week or more ago someone posted in NANOG or elsewhere a site that had made > a comparison of the IPv6 BGP table sizes of different operators (i.e. HE, > Cogent, Sprint, etc), making the point that a full view might take multiple > feeds. I think that webs

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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:26:48 am Rettke, Brian wrote: > The problem is probably not the connection speed, but congestion on the CMTS. > If the downstream is saturated (too many people watching Netflix on a node) > the available shared bandwidth may not be enough to support your real-time

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

In a message written on Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:47:45PM -0500, David Sparro wrote: > I still think that the link shows that the factors are more economic > than regulatory. As you point out, even where the regulatory obstacles > have been overcome, it is not clear that Verizon ever actually did

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/20/2010 8:51 PM, JC Dill wrote: On 20/12/10 2:15 PM, David Sparro wrote: There is no monopoly. They've already experimented with that and (apparently) decided that it wasn't worth it. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/ptech/stories/DN-verizon_17bus.State.Edition1.f7543b.ht

RE: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Thanks. I think the DFP might be a better fit, but right now it's timing out. Frank -Original Message- From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:39 AM To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons Maybe this

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Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Jared Mauch wrote: Maybe this is a good place to start.. http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/compare/ - Jared On Dec 21, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: A week or more ago someone posted in NANOG or elsewhere a site that had made a comparison of the IPv6 BGP table sizes of different operator

Re: IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

Maybe this is a good place to start.. http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/compare/ - Jared On Dec 21, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > A week or more ago someone posted in NANOG or elsewhere a site that had made > a comparison of the IPv6 BGP table sizes of different operators (i.e. HE, > Coge

IPv6 BGP table size comparisons

A week or more ago someone posted in NANOG or elsewhere a site that had made a comparison of the IPv6 BGP table sizes of different operators (i.e. HE, Cogent, Sprint, etc), making the point that a full view might take multiple feeds. I think that website also had text files with the comparisons.

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

- "Owen DeLong" wrote: > Yeah... I'd rather see it done in such a way that there is a > prohibition of common ownership or management. Essentially, > require that the stock be split and each current owner receives > one share in each company with any shareholders who own more than 3% > of th

RE: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/20/10 9:07 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Dec 20, 2010, at 8:51 01PM, JC Dill wrote: Do you have any cites saying that this was actually rolled out? Or did the project get cut during the financial crisis, and never actually rolled out? The issue I have with all these "cites" is that non

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

> > > The Comcast proposed business model is simply wrong, and unsustainable without > essentially being a protection racket. Pay us more money or your service will > be kneecapped > > We have laws against extortion. We also have laws against warrantless wiretaps. Comcast seeks retroactive

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:42 AM, Tim Franklin wrote: > > - "Owen DeLong" wrote: > >> Personally, I think that enforced UNE is the right model. If you sell >> higher level services, you should not be allowed to operate the physical >> plant. The physical plant operating companies should sell a

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/21/10 1:42 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Bzzt! It's -not- illegal to put a letter inside a FedEx box. It just has to have the appropriate (USPS) postage on it, _as_well_ as paying the FedEx service/delivery fee. This is true if it is just the letter you're sending, or if it is a sealed letter

Re: AS Numbers from a common 32-bit pool.

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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On Monday, December 20, 2010 06:36:03 pm you wrote: > Those are all still sub-T1 on the uplink and well below normal CMTS service > speeds. Low-end CMTS is around 15Mbps/7Mbps. Yeah, at least with the T-1 you aren't oversubscribed. One company for whom I consult was going to go from their T-1 to

Re: AS Numbers from a common 32-bit pool.

On 2010/12/21 08:15, Matthew Palmer wrote: That would be why 32-bit ASNs have been "requestable" for the last couple of years(?); you could have been prodding providers with "it doesn't work, fix it" for a while now. - Matt Although I realise that, the problem in South Africa is that we esse

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

- "Owen DeLong" wrote: > Personally, I think that enforced UNE is the right model. If you sell > higher level services, you should not be allowed to operate the physical > plant. The physical plant operating companies should sell access to the > physical plant to higher level service provid