Trouble with IPv6 setup on Quagga

Hello everyone I am having trouble with Quagga in setting up IPv6 BGP. So far it was failing with external providers. Just now I gave it a try to setup BGP session (IPv6 only) within our ASN between two routers. >From our other end router I see there is no acconcement, while I see blocks being

Re: NFSen plugin - ddd

I did manage to get my hands on it this morning (thanks Brandon!). I've put it up for anyone who's interested [1], I had a couple of people ask for a copy if I found it. I haven't had a chance to look through the plugin yet, so take no responsibility for it. Cheers, Jonesy [1] http://www.haqthegib

IPv6 Toolkit v1.2.2 released

Folks, We've released IPv6 toolkit version 1.2.2. It is available at: (tarball and git repository). This version is meant to be fully-portable to Mac OS (the list of supported systems now including, at the very least, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, and Mac OS)

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Aug 6, 2012, at 16:42 , james machado wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> That's simply not true at all... >> >> Let's look at what it takes to configure BGP as I suggested... >> >> 1. The ASN number of the two providers >> 2. The ASN to be used for the local sid

RE: Cisco 7200 PCI Limitations

For users with private DS3-based network links between sites, for the case where 2 or more of these DS3's are to be bundled together in a multi-link PPP connection, Cisco will not support this configuration due to insufficient 7200 cpu resources, so packet-by-packet load sharing must be used whi

Re: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

I find the mirrors here are generally beefy https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors Thanks. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: > Hi Micah > > > Does anyone have any machines in Japan, S. Korea, or other asian > locations with good bandwidth. where they can host a 100mbit fil

Re: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

Hi Micah > Does anyone have any machines in Japan, S. Korea, or other asian locations with good bandwidth. where they can host a 100mbit file so I can attempt to download it to test this? > you may try downloading from stingray.cyber.net.pk It's in Karachi (Pakistan) with GigE limits. Use rsync.

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > That's simply not true at all... > > Let's look at what it takes to configure BGP as I suggested... > > 1. The ASN number of the two providers > 2. The ASN to be used for the local side > 3. The IP Address to use on the local end of each connect

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Aug 6, 2012, at 16:15 , William Herrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> That's simply not true at all... >> >> Let's look at what it takes to configure BGP as I suggested... >> >> 1. The ASN number of the two providers >> 2. The ASN to be used for the local s

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On 8/6/12 4:15 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> That's simply not true at all... >> >> Let's look at what it takes to configure BGP as I suggested... >> >> 1. The ASN number of the two providers >> 2. The ASN to be used for the local side >> 3. The

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > That's simply not true at all... > > Let's look at what it takes to configure BGP as I suggested... > > 1. The ASN number of the two providers > 2. The ASN to be used for the local side > 3. The IP Address to use on the local end of each connec

RE: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

Hi Micah, You could try mirror.aarnet.edu.au, if Australia is sufficiently Asian for you... David -Original Message- From: Micah Anderson [mailto:mi...@riseup.net] Sent: Friday, 3 August 2012 4:00 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files Hi, I'm sitting on wha

Re: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

If you can, I suggest finding other well connected hosts and using IPERF in UDP mode for your testing. Separating TCP long-fat pipe and slow start issues from true packet delivery/loss rates at a given bitrate are beneficial. Use Linux as most iperf windows builds are based on cygwin and have iss

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

That's simply not true at all... Let's look at what it takes to configure BGP as I suggested... 1. The ASN number of the two providers 2. The ASN to be used for the local side 3. The IP Address to use on the local end of each connection 4. The IP Address to peer with on each connection 5. The pre

Re: next hop packet loss

It is a problem with http protocol regardless of ICMP. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2012, at 5:51 PM, "Tom Hill" wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On 06/08/12 22:27, Jim Ray wrote: >> What is the best way to solve this type of problem? > > It's not a problem, it's checkpoint purporting to be 'secure' wh

Re: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

Hi I think RING project NLNOG has potential to help your effort. https://ring.nlnog.net/ At least they have location in tokyo. And I talked with Seichi Kawamura who is leader of JANOG about method of quality　verification among the world wide. They are using host of Softlayer, amazon and OVH which

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

Owen, That's like saying if it were easy to fly we'd all be pilots, which isn't true either. BGP would need to be completely redesigned/replaced before it could possibly be automated to that level much less implemented by the Lynksis/DLink/Netgear/$yourfavoritesohorouter vendor. Busines

Re: next hop packet loss

Hi Jim, On 06/08/12 22:27, Jim Ray wrote: What is the best way to solve this type of problem? It's not a problem, it's checkpoint purporting to be 'secure' when all they're doing is blocking ICMP outright, seemingly. If I try 'tcptraceroute' (from Linux) it works just fine, bare the Above.

Re: Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

Linode hosts one to test their Tokyo location - http://speedtest.tokyo.linode.com/100MB-tokyo.bin Source - http://www.linode.com/speedtest/ On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Micah Anderson wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm sitting on what is advertised as a 100mbit/sec connection in > Cambodia. I have been t

Re: IETF contacts? - Fwd: Reference to historic or obsolated RFCs

I'd suggest the ietf-discussion list, since it's a matter for general discussion. On 06/08/2012 10:10 AM, Livio Zanol Puppim wrote: Hello guys, I've sent the e-mail below to IETF, but I couldn't find a contact e-mail to address this kind of subject in IETF site. Does anybody knows which e-mail

Wanted: Asia bandwidth test files

Hi, I'm sitting on what is advertised as a 100mbit/sec connection in Cambodia. I have been trying to verify that, because I do not believe it is valid. I did iperf tests from a number of network locations, and at one point I did get 71mbit/sec (most of the results were around 20-25mbit/sec or le

next hop packet loss

Good afternoon. I am a newbie to this group, and this post is my first post ever. A friend from another list recommended this group. I have a Time Warner Business Class connection and am unable to reach http://www.checkpoint.com to research product line I wish to carry. I did a trace route and

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

Respectfully, I disagree... I think this is a causal chain... 1. Lack of cost-effective BGP-based service means that 2. CPE vendors are not motivated to provide self-configuring bgp-speaking routers to behave in this manner means that 3. SMBs seek other solutions using available CP

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

Probability is much too strong IMO. Most businesses don't even consider multi-homing and many that do use NAT devices with several connections rather than trying to run BGP. #not associated nor do I recommend, just an example http://www.fatpipeinc.com/warp/index.html This ignores the proba

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Aug 6, 2012, at 07:21 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:49:07AM -0500, jamie rishaw > wrote: >> discuss. > > It's a short sighted result created by the lack of competition. > > IP access is a commodity service, with thin margins that will only > get th

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Aug 6, 2012, at 07:27 , William Herrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: >>> As much as I'd love for >>> Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000 >> >> I'm curious as to

Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > Even though we know it's technically possible, service providers aren't > going to overprovision power backup unless there is a business reason to do > so. Some state PUCs have minimum battery run times -- I'm sure service > providers who provid

RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?

Even though we know it's technically possible, service providers aren't going to overprovision power backup unless there is a business reason to do so. Some state PUCs have minimum battery run times -- I'm sure service providers who provide telephone service are meeting that because their certific

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

In a message written on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 05:51:02PM +0100, Mike Jones wrote: > If you have a router that sends out RAs with lifetime 0 when the > prefix goes away then this should be deployable for "poor mans > failover" (the same category I put IPv4 NAT in), however there are If your provider

Re: Cisco 7200 PCI Limitations

While I agree it may not be suitable for transit GigE purposes, it is certainly acceptable for many WAN aggregation scenarios and CPE scenarios well in excess of T1 speeds. There are still many out there in DS3, Fast-E, subrate ethernet subscriber, ATM, (DSL/L2TP/PPPOE), DMVPN, and other similar s

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On 6 August 2012 16:11, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:05:30AM -0500, Chris Boyd > wrote: >> Speaking as someone who does a lot of work supporting small business IT, I >> suspect the number is much lower. As a group, these customers tend to be >> extremel

Re: Cisco 7200 PCI Limitations

The 7200 architecture dates from the late 1990s, and is basically modeled on a PCI-bus UNIX workstation from that era. The 7200 is usable today as a WAN aggregation router for T1 access, and nothing else. Using it as a GiGE transit router will place a non-deterministic node in the network, unable t

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Leo Bicknell wrote: However, it causes me to ask a differnet question, how will this work in IPv6? Does anyone make a dual-uplink IPv6 aware device? Ideally it would use DHCP-PD to get prefixes from two upstream providers and would make both available on the local LAN. Co

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

In a message written on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:05:30AM -0500, Chris Boyd wrote: > Speaking as someone who does a lot of work supporting small business IT, I > suspect the number is much lower. As a group, these customers tend to be > extremely cost averse. Paying for a secondary access circuit

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > I'm curious as to your number... where is that from? > Marhsall had noted a number of 'small businesses' in the US at ~1.4m > as of ~2006ish? Speaking as someone who does a lot of work supporting small business IT, I suspect the number is

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM, William Herrin wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christopher Morrow >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: As much as I'd love for Verizon to offer BGP d

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: >>> As much as I'd love for >>> Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000 >> >> I'm curious as

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On 8/6/12 7:08 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: As much as I'd love for Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000 I'm curious as to your number... where is that from? sent to your mailbox every week AS Sum

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > Which leads to an interesting question. If on top of your $100/month > "business class Internet" the provider were to charge $50/month for > "BGP Access" to cover their costs of having a human configure the > session, larger access gear to ha

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: >> As much as I'd love for >> Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000 > > I'm curious as to your number... where is that from? > Marhsall had noted a numb

Re: IETF contacts? - Fwd: Reference to historic or obsolated RFCs

Thanks! :) 2012/8/6 Joe Abley > > On 2012-08-06, at 10:10, Livio Zanol Puppim > wrote: > > > I've sent the e-mail below to IETF, but I couldn't find a contact e-mail > to > > address this kind of subject in IETF site. Does anybody knows which > e-mail > > to send this? > > http://www.rfc-editor

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

Subject: Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Date: Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:08:45AM -0400 Quoting Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com): > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: > > As much as I'd love for > > Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer t

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

In a message written on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:49:07AM -0500, jamie rishaw wrote: > discuss. It's a short sighted result created by the lack of competition. IP access is a commodity service, with thin margins that will only get thinner. Right now those margins are being propped up in many loca

Re: IETF contacts? - Fwd: Reference to historic or obsolated RFCs

On 2012-08-06, at 10:10, Livio Zanol Puppim wrote: > I've sent the e-mail below to IETF, but I couldn't find a contact e-mail to > address this kind of subject in IETF site. Does anybody knows which e-mail > to send this? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcfaq.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman

IETF contacts? - Fwd: Reference to historic or obsolated RFCs

Hello guys, I've sent the e-mail below to IETF, but I couldn't find a contact e-mail to address this kind of subject in IETF site. Does anybody knows which e-mail to send this? The contact page from IETF website: http://www.ietf.org/contact-the-ietf.html -- Forwarded message -- F

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: > As much as I'd love for > Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000 I'm curious as to your number... where is that from? Marhsall had noted a number of 'small businesses' in the US at ~1.4m as of ~2006ish? I'd thin

Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:49 AM, jamie rishaw wrote: > discuss. Commodity service from a commodity provider. As much as I'd love for Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000 customers worldwide for such a service. As long as they maintain sufficient network neutrality to

Re: IPv6 End User Fee

On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:22 -0500, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. wrote: > 1. How are you making up loss of revenue on IPv4 assignments? By using legacy IP only were it is necessary. This way I have to support only one stack (IPv6), that saves me money. Regards. Dan -- Dan Luedtke http://www.danrl.de