MP-BGP next hop tracking delay 0

2012-10-23 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
I was wondering whether you have some experience with setting of the next hop tracking delay value for BGP to 0 for critical changes please There's gonna be only a few prefixes registered with BGP so far, around 150+ adam

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Michiel Klaver
Carlos, check the mail logs of your web-server, your domain might have a primary A-record pointing to something different than MX-records. When the MX servers do something like greylisting and bounce with a temp-code (4xx) hotmail servers will try alternative records (like @ IN A) and might find a

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Falling back to A when there is an MX (especially after receiving any kind of SMTP response from the MX) is an RFC violation by the way (rfc 5321 section 5.1) Even then - this doesn't appear to be the case. The bounce below was generated entirely within Hotmail. From SNT133-WS53 (a hotmail webse

Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:07:50PM +, Paul Zugnoni wrote: > Curious whether it's commonplace to find systems that > automatically regard .0 and .255 IP addresses (ipv4) as src/dst in > packets as traffic that should be considered invalid. On a separate note, one of my customers discove

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Carlos M. Perez
Mike, I think this is exactly what is going on. The domains that are having issues have greylisting on with the spam filtering service and are hosted on a farm of hosting servers. We have blocked port 25 on the main hosting IP of the web server, and moved the built in mail server to listen on an

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Carlos M. Perez
Suresh, The affected domains have never been on hotmail, etc. We've actually held this domain/hosting for the past 14+ years on this particular domain. Yes, there is an RFC violation, and it's apparently due to the greylisting feature from the spam filtering. Carlos M. Perez Runcentral, LLC On

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
"authentication required" is a bizzarre error to return. Does it go away if you actually turn off graylisting for hotmail? On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Carlos M. Perez wrote: > Mike, > > I think this is exactly what is going on. The domains that are having > issues have greylisting on with the

Re: Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Rob Laidlaw
RFC 2526 reserves the last 128 host addresses in each subnet for anycast use. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:07:50PM +, Paul Zugnoni wrote: >> Curious whether it's commonplace to find systems that >> automatically regard .0 and .255

Re: Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > RFC 2526 reserves the last 128 host addresses in each subnet for anycast use. But that would mean that the ...:fffe address also shouldn't work. Considering RFC 2526 then filtering those addresses when used as source address makes sense. - Sander PS: I'm in contact with a network enginee

RE: IP tunnel MTU

2012-10-23 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Roland, > -Original Message- > From: Dobbins, Roland [mailto:rdobb...@arbor.net] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:49 PM > To: NANOG list > Subject: Re: IP tunnel MTU > > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > > > Since tunnels always reduce the effective MTU seen b

Re: Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Rob, On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 08:16:48AM -0500, Rob Laidlaw wrote: > RFC 2526 reserves the last 128 host addresses in each subnet for anycast use. D'oh, I didn't even think to check for reserved addresses. Thanks. Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Mike Jones
On 23 October 2012 14:16, Rob Laidlaw wrote: > RFC 2526 reserves the last 128 host addresses in each subnet for anycast use. IPv4 addresses ending in .0 and .255 can't be used either because the top and bottom addresses of a subnet are unusable. Why would hetzner be making such assumptions about

Re: Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Marc Storck
>IPv4 addresses ending in .0 and .255 can't be used either because the >top and bottom addresses of a subnet are unusable. Only true if speaking of /24, but with the appearance of CIDR 19 years ago, this is not true anymoreŠ The .255 and .0 in the "center" of a /23 are perfectly usable see an ear

Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?

2012-10-23 Thread james machado
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Justin Krejci wrote: > And since owen has not yet mentioned it, consider something that supports > having : in its address as well. > > Sort of tangentially related, I had a support rep for a vendor once tell me > that a 255 in the second or third octet was not v

RE: MP-BGP next hop tracking delay 0

2012-10-23 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi Adam, Works just fine on any relatively modern router. Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Adam Vitkovsky [mailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:31 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: MP-BGP next hop tracking delay 0 I was wondering whether you have some ex

Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?

2012-10-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Job Snijders > In the post-classfull routing world .0 and .255 should be normal IP > addresses. CIDR was only recently defined (somewhere in 1993) so I > understand it might take companies some time to adjust to this novel > situation. Ok, enough snarkyness! > > Quite recently a participant of

RE: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?

2012-10-23 Thread Darren O'Connor
I purposely assigned myself a .0 and never had a problem using anything online, or going anywhere > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:00:53 +0200 > From: tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com > To: j...@instituut.net > Subject: Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable > addresses? > CC: na

RE: IRON vs. BGP (was Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?)

2012-10-23 Thread Templin, Fred L
I realize that this is reaching way back, but you may want to have a look at the latest version of IRON: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-templin-ironbis-12.txt IRON manages the internal routing systems for large virtual service provider networks. It deals with deaggregation and churn due to mobility

Re: IRON vs. BGP (was Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?)

2012-10-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > I realize that this is reaching way back, but you may want > to have a look at the latest version of IRON: > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-templin-ironbis-12.txt > > IRON manages the internal routing systems for large virtual > service pro

Tech for blocking particular YouTube video - Wired.com question

2012-10-23 Thread Ryan Singel
A colleague is working on a story that a particular country not to be named implemented technology to block a particular infamous riot-inducing video for a certain section of its populace. The questions are: 1) how hard is this to do at scale, 2) does it require DPI equipment and 3) is there a way

Re: Tech for blocking particular YouTube video - Wired.com question

2012-10-23 Thread Mike Lyon
And of course, we all know, it was the video that induced the riot... :) -mike Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2012, at 14:53, Ryan Singel wrote: > A colleague is working on a story that a particular country not to be named > implemented technology to block a particular infamous riot-inducing v

Re: Tech for blocking particular YouTube video - Wired.com question

2012-10-23 Thread JP Viljoen
On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:52 PM, Ryan Singel wrote: > A colleague is working on a story that a particular country not to be named > implemented technology to block a particular infamous riot-inducing video > for a certain section of its populace. > > The questions are: 1) how hard is this to do at sc

Inter-domain OTN, does it happen in the real world?

2012-10-23 Thread Will Orton
Reading about OTN networks, I see that "IrDI" is specified to handle the case where one OTN network needs to connect to another natively with OTN signals. Is this done in the real world? Does OTN network operator A ever go to OTN network operator B and say, "I'd like to buy a OTU2 from city X to

Re: Tech for blocking particular YouTube video - Wired.com question

2012-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Most countries that implement a great firewall of $country model already do route all their international outbound traffic through a common gateway. Still others use the mechanism of sending a court order to all registered ISPs in the country asking them to block whichever URL it is. If that ISP

Re: Inter-domain OTN, does it happen in the real world?

2012-10-23 Thread Phil Bedard
Most telcos can provide an OTU2 client interface but there is no peering, they are just mapping directly to a wavelength or to OTU3/4. So it's transparent service. Phil On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Will Orton wrote: > Reading about OTN networks, I see that "IrDI" is specified to handle the

Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread Rodrick Brown
"With coded TCP, blocks of packets are clumped together and then transformed into algebraic equations that describe the packets. If part of the message is lost, the receiver can solve the equation to derive the missing data. The process of solving the equations is simple and linear, meaning it does

Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread George Herbert
Modeled with just simple FTP sessions? Ugh: they admitted to having MIT backbone packet traces to analyze, and then used that simple of a simulator... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > "With coded TCP, blocks of packets are clumped

Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Painter
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Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread George Herbert
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Re: Issues encountered with assigning all ones IPv6 /64 address? (Was Re: Issues encountered with assigning .0 and .255 as usable addresses?)

2012-10-23 Thread Joel Maslak
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > IPv4 addresses ending in .0 and .255 can't be used either because the > top and bottom addresses of a subnet are unusable. > > Why would hetzner be making such assumptions about what is and is not > a valid address on a remote network? if you ha

Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread Masataka Ohta
(2012/10/24 12:29), Rodrick Brown wrote: > "With coded TCP, blocks of packets are clumped together and then > transformed into algebraic equations that describe the packets. If > part of the message is lost, the receiver can solve the equation to > derive the missing data. Don't do that. > MIT fo