Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-20 Thread Carlos Alcantar
+1 here on going all APC on the panels, note we run a gpon network so making that choice was fairly easy for us. You do end up having to use a lot of sc or lc/upc - sc/apc patch cables on the colo equipment side of things but everything out in the field is 100% sc/apc. Carlos Alcantar Race

Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Tomas Podermanski
Hi, It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the very first time when native IPv6 on google statistics (http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html) reached 1%. Some might say it is tremendous success after 16 years of deploying IPv6 :-) T.

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-20 Thread Dan Luedtke
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:40:45 -0800 Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Setting up a proper IPv6 subnet and unique gateway for each VM is probably insane, but, potentially less insane than some other alternatives. I second that! I give out a proper configured /64 to every customer regardless of

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Tomas Podermanski wrote: It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the very first time when native IPv6 on google statistics (http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html) reached 1%. Some might say it is tremendous success after 16

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Owen DeLong
It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. Owen On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Tomas Podermanski wrote: It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Ray Soucy
Or artificially high ... On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. Owen On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
APNIC labs have an interesting set of numbers on IPv6 uptake as well. http://labs.apnic.net/measureipv6/ On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Owen DeLong wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. Owen On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Aaron Toponce

RE: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Tony Hain
Tomas Podermanski wrote: Hi, It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the very first time when native IPv6 on google statistics (http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html) reached 1%. Some might say it is tremendous success after 16 years of deploying IPv6 :-) T.

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Oliver Garraux
So, I assume 6in4 tunnels like HE.net are included in the native percentage? Oliver - Oliver Garraux Check out my blog: www.GetSimpliciti.com/blog Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/olivergarraux On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:02 AM, William F. Maton Sotomayor

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, So, I assume 6in4 tunnels like HE.net are included in the native percentage? As the traffic is delivered as native traffic to Google I don't think Google can even see that there is a tunnel between them and the user. They might see a lower MTU, but to Google the traffic is native IPv6. -

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread bmanning
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: LIFE! DO YOU HEAR ME? GIVE MY CREATION... LIFE! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Tomas Podermanski wrote: It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the very first time when native IPv6 on google statistics

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Tore Anderson
* Oliver Garraux So, I assume 6in4 tunnels like HE.net are included in the native percentage? Probably. Fortunately, they are a drop in the ocean (at least from my point of view). -- Tore Anderson Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Sander Steffann san...@steffann.nl wrote: Hi, So, I assume 6in4 tunnels like HE.net are included in the native percentage? As the traffic is delivered as native traffic to Google I don't think Google can even see that there is a tunnel between them and the

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Derek Ivey de...@derekivey.com wrote: I saw this on Reddit and thought it was fascinating. I figured I'd share it here too since no one else did. http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/17/3655442/restoring-verizon-service-manhattan-hurricane-sandy hey lookie! 'free

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread ポール・ロラン
Hello, On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:14:18 +0100 Tomas Podermanski tpo...@cis.vutbr.cz wrote: It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the very first time when native IPv6 on google statistics (http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html) reached 1%. Some might say it is

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Sid Rao
We had multiple servers synchronized with Windows/MS time change their clock to the year 2000 today. It broke many things, including AD authentication. These servers had been properly synchronized for years. They were synchronized with Microsoft and NIST NTP servers. This may not be

RE: Technical help required to check routing or filtering of Gobal IP routing range: 1.128.0.0 - 1.159.255.255 in the Level 3 Network Space.

2012-11-20 Thread Scott, Robert D.
http://lookingglass.level3.net/ Should get U what U need. Robert D. Scottrob...@ufl.edu Senior Network Engineer352-273-0113 Phone UF Information Technology 352-392-2061 CNS Phone Tree CNS - Network Services 352-273-0743 FAX University of Florida 352-294-3571 FLR NOC

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 20, 2012, at 08:45 , Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. AMS-IX publishes stats too: https://stats.ams-ix.net/sflow/ This is probably a better view of overall percentage on the Internet

Re: Technical help required to check routing or filtering of Gobal IP routing range: 1.128.0.0 - 1.159.255.255 in the Level 3 Network Space.

2012-11-20 Thread Tom Paseka
G'day! On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Attila Vekas attilave...@gmail.com wrote: Regards, Attila Vekas Telstra I'd say its AS23148 / Terremark with a bogon filter. your fixed line traceroute shows the next-hop being the connection between level3 and AS23148. 10 208 ms 191 ms 208

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 04:21:55PM -0700, Van Wolfe wrote: Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. I'm surprised the various time geeks aren't all posting their logs, so

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Mike Jones
On 20 November 2012 16:05, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 08:45 , Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. AMS-IX publishes stats too:

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:42 , Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote: On 20 November 2012 16:05, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 08:45 , Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons.

Re: [outages] NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Colin Johnston
On 20 Nov 2012, at 15:38, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: I'm still waiting for someone who was affected by this to provide coherent logs from ntpd showing exactly when the time change happened. Getting these, at least on an *IX system, is far from difficult folks. from firewall ntp

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Steve Meuse
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: If your machines switched dates yesterday it probably means you're NTP infrastructure is insufficiently peered and diversified. If you take anything away from this thread, this is it -Steve

RE: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread George, Wes
From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/17/3655442/restoring-verizon-service-m anhattan-hurricane-sandy hey lookie! 'free uprades'! [WEG] Better that than we're going to replace all of this old technology with exactly the same stuff

Re: [outages] NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Colin Johnston
no idea, re sigterm cause checked firewall system logs and could not see cause from that either times are GMT Colin On 20 Nov 2012, at 17:05, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: Colin, Signal 15 = SIGTERM, so something intentionally shut ntpd down on your side. The logs I'd be

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:55 AM, George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com wrote: From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/17/3655442/restoring-verizon-service-m anhattan-hurricane-sandy hey lookie! 'free uprades'! [WEG] Better that than

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/20/12 9:10 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:55 AM, George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com wrote: From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/17/3655442/restoring-verizon-service-m anhattan-hurricane-sandy hey lookie!

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
On 11/20/2012 12:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it's acutally kinda nice that at least from CO - building now there maybe more highspeed links... and maybe lower long term costs? Be careful of what you wish for, Yes, you get fiber from the CO to the Building... however there is also a

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread TJ
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:14:18 +0100 Tomas Podermanski tpo...@cis.vutbr.cz wrote: It seems that today is a big day for IPv6. It is the very first time when native IPv6 on google statistics (http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html) reached 1%. Some might say it is

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/19/12 6:08 PM, Wallace Keith wrote: Just got paged with a pbx alarm that had 1970 as the year. By the time I logged in , it was showing 2012. Using GPS for time and date. I use GPS for my NTP server and didn't notice anything, but it's PPS disciplined after initial sync so it

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/19/12 9:16 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote: Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canada counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who don't speak much, if any, English. Having said that, I can't recall having seen any Quebecois

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 12:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it's acutally kinda nice that at least from CO - building now there maybe more highspeed links... and maybe lower long term costs? Be careful of what you wish

AS 2379

2012-11-20 Thread Eric C. Miller
Does anybody know of a list of BGP communities for AS2379 (EMBARK-WNPK now CenturyLink)? I haven't reached out to Centurylink yet, but I'm used to just finding them through Google Searches. Eric Miller, CCNP Network Engineering Consultant (407) 257-5115

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Blair Trosper
I've found myself becoming a snob about IPv6. I almost look down on IPv4-only networks in the same way that I won't go see a film that isn't projected on DLP unless my arm is twisted. I'm a convert, and I'm glad to see the adoption rate edging up. However, I still scratch my head on why most

Re: AS 2379

2012-11-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Eric C. Miller e...@ericheather.com wrote: Does anybody know of a list of BGP communities for AS2379 (EMBARK-WNPK now CenturyLink)? I haven't reached out to Centurylink yet, but I'm used to just finding them through Google Searches.

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/20/12 10:20 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 12:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it's acutally kinda nice that at least from CO - building now there maybe more highspeed links... and maybe lower long

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Tim Chown
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:42, Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote: If these figures are representative (google saying 1% of users and AMSIX saying 0.5% of traffic) then it would indicate that dual stacked users can push ~50% of their traffic over IPv6. If this is even close to reality then that

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
On 11/20/2012 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 12:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it's acutally kinda nice that at least from CO - building now there maybe more highspeed links... and maybe lower long

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Leo Bicknell
After some private replies, I'm going to reply to my own post with some information here. It appears many people don't understand how the NTP protocol works. I suspect many people have configured a primary and a backup NTP server on many of their devices. It turns out this is the _WORST_

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Derek Ivey de...@derekivey.com wrote: I saw this on Reddit and thought it was fascinating. I figured I'd share it here too since no one else did.

NTP problems - (one) root cause

2012-11-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
A subscriber to Outages who wishes to remain nameless passes along the pointer to this story: Apparently, either tick or tock got rebooted yesterday, and came up with its local clock set to 2000. And lots of people believed it. https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?nstoryid=14548 Did you believe

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org To protect against two falseticking servers (tick and tock, as we saw on the 19th) you need _FIVE_ servers minimum configured if they are both in the list. More importantly, if you want to protect against a source (GPS, CDMA,

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org To protect against two falseticking servers (tick and tock, as we saw on the 19th) you need _FIVE_ servers minimum configured if they are both in the list.

RE: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Tony Hain
Mike Jones wrote: On 20 November 2012 16:05, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 08:45 , Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. AMS-IX publishes stats too:

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Harald Koch
While looking into the NTP chaos from Monday, I noticed that my personal servers have an NTP peer running IPv6. I have no idea how long that's been going on - it was a complete non-event ;). -- Harald

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Tomas Podermanski
Hi, On 11/20/12 7:24 PM, Blair Trosper wrote: I've found myself becoming a snob about IPv6. I almost look down on IPv4-only networks in the same way that I won't go see a film that isn't projected on DLP unless my arm is twisted. I'm a convert, and I'm glad to see the adoption rate edging

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 12:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it's acutally kinda nice that at least

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
On 11/20/2012 2:58 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: On 11/20/2012 12:10 PM, Christopher Morrow

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:28:19PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: I'm curious, Leo, what your internal setup looks like. Do you have an internal pair of masters, all slaved to those externals and one another, with your machines homed to them? Full mesh? Or something else?

Re: The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Christopher Morrow wrote: apologies, I forgot the emoticons after my last comment. i really did mean it in jest... I don't think VZ has harnessed weather-changing-powers. (yet). Well, they ARE The Phone Company! -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread George Herbert
On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: . I've also been looking at an item like this: http://www.netburnerstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PK70EX-NTP which is about $300 + misc parts. Should be well worth it to avoid a 'major outage' that

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: For small players, less than 4 sites, typically just use the NTP pool servers, configuring 4 per box minimum. If you want the same protection I just outlined in the paragraph before, make 4 of your servers talk to the

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Mike Lyon
I usually use time.nist.gov. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Darius Jahandarie djahanda...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: For small players, less than 4 sites, typically just use the NTP pool servers, configuring 4 per box minimum. If

RE: [outages] NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
Logs from a Juniper router in a customer network - we had hundreds of these affected. They all synchronize to internal hosts (172.20.167.251 and .252) which are configured to get time from NIST and USNO CORP-NTP-01#sh ntp as address ref clock st when poll reach delay

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 20, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Darius Jahandarie djahanda...@gmail.com wrote: Choosing the first four servers is usually pretty straightforward: *.CC.pool.ntp.org But beyond that, I'm honestly rather curious what server selections are a good idea. A first thought would be an adjacent

Picking outside NTP servers (Re: NTP Issues Today)

2012-11-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Darius Jahandarie djahanda...@gmail.com Choosing the first four servers is usually pretty straightforward: *.CC.pool.ntp.org But beyond that, I'm honestly rather curious what server selections are a good idea. A first thought would be an adjacent country,

Re: Picking outside NTP servers (Re: NTP Issues Today)

2012-11-20 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: For myself, I usually pick the first three in us.pool.ntp.org, tick and tock, time.nist.gov, and a couple of regionally appropriate large universities. As this week indicated, perhaps tick and tock are not sufficiently

Re: Brasil/Mexico/Argentina connectivity

2012-11-20 Thread Eduardo Casarero
El jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 01:05:37 p.m., Jima escribió: On Wednesday, November 14th, 2012, Olivier CALVANO wrote: I am search one or more carrier for connect 3 sites in Brasil, Mexico and Argentina to one of our pop in USA or Spain. I don't deal with it directly, but my employer

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-20 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 50abc681.5040...@rollernet.us, Seth Mattinen writes: On 11/19/12 9:16 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote: Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canad a counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks wh o don't speak much, if any,

Re: Picking outside NTP servers (Re: NTP Issues Today)

2012-11-20 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:53:39PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: For myself, I usually pick the first three in us.pool.ntp.org, tick and tock, time.nist.gov, and a couple of regionally appropriate large universities. I'd advise going through the RR for a while, and pick servers close to

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/20/12 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 50abc681.5040...@rollernet.us, Seth Mattinen writes: On 11/19/12 9:16 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote: Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canad a counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 11/19/12, Van Wolfe vanwo...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. Are you sure that you are actually using NTP to set your clock? For you to sync with 2000, you should

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you are actually using NTP to set your clock? For you to sync with 2000, you should have had multiple confused peers from multiple time sources; possibly a false radio signal NTP by default has a

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Damian Menscher
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/19/12, Van Wolfe vanwo...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. Are you sure that you are

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Alvaro Pereira
Looks like something bad has happened: Behind the Random NTP Bizarreness of Incorrect Year Being Set https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?nstoryid=14548 --- A few people have written in within the past 18 hours about their NTP server/clients getting set to the year 2000. The cause of this behavior is

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread Blake Dunlap
That's what happens when you just follow vendor recommendations blindly. If you do follow that on vm's (which can actually be a good practice), make sure they pull from your own time infrastructure, and not just the world at large, and that those servers behave in a sane fashion with regard to

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread George Herbert
As a reminder - time infrastructure is not recommended for virtualization. Make them physicals. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote: That's what happens when you just follow vendor recommendations blindly. If you do follow that on vm's (which can actually be a

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 20, 2012, at 14:44 , Tony Hain alh-i...@tndh.net wrote: If you assume that Youtube/Facebook/Netflix are 50% of the overall traffic, why wouldn't a dual stacked end point have half of its traffic as IPv6 after June??? If you assume Kinda says it all right there. But more

RE: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-20 Thread Frank Bulk
Good stuff here: http://www.n2prise.org/fiber002.htm and http://www.n2prise.org/fiber003.htm Frank -Original Message- From: Jeff Kell [mailto:jeff-k...@utc.edu] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:37 PM To: nanog Subject: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC Looking for some