Re: Suggestion on Fiber tester

2013-09-27 Thread Jeff Kell
On 9/26/2013 6:53 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > What flavor of multimode fiber are you dealing with? The answer and > the distance you can run becomes substantially more important at 10G. > > Hopefully you're at least dealing with OM3. OM1/OM2 imposes distance > limitations and you'll likely ne

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Matt Palmer
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 02:10:47AM -0400, Ryan McIntosh wrote: > I don't respond to many of these threads but I have to say I've > contested this one too only to have to beaten into my head that a /64 > is "appropriate".. it still hasn't stuck, but unfortunately rfc's for > other protocols depend o

RE: Suggestion on Fiber tester

2013-09-27 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List wrote: To follow up, all of this fiber is mm and all light is sx to sfp. Currently all 1gbit, but it will be repulled as 10gbit capable soon... I guess I'm going to have to be a little less cheap and shoot for something under $1000. I had an

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Owen DeLong
On Sep 26, 2013, at 13:18 , Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 9/26/2013 1:07 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: >> >> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Darren Pilgrim >> wrote: >> >>> On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... >>> >>> The

BGP Update Report

2013-09-27 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 19-Sep-13 -to- 26-Sep-13 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS36998 63716 2.4% 34.2 -- SDN-MOBITEL 2 - AS15003 57887 2.1% 42.2 -- N

The Cidr Report

2013-09-27 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 27 21:13:30 2013 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: >> Therefore, I don't see any reason to artificially inflate >> the routing table by conserving, and then making >> orgs come back for additional allocations. > > I'm not convinced of

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Randy Carpenter
> In ipv4 there are 482319 routes and 45235 ASNs in the DFZ this week, of that > 18619 ~40% announce only one prefix. given the distribution of prefix counts > across ASNs it's quite reasonable to conclude that the consumption of > routing table slots is not primarly a property of the number of p

Weekly Routing Table Report

2013-09-27 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.ap

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > >> There is no bit length which allocations of /20's and larger won't >> quickly exhaust. It's not about the number of bits, it's about how we >> choose to use them. > > True, but how many orgs do we expect to fall into that category? If th

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > >> There is no bit length which allocations of /20's and larger won't >> quickly exhaust. It's not about the number of bits, it's about how we >> choose to use them. >> >> Regards, >> Bill Herrin > > True, but how many orgs do we expect t

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Randy Carpenter
> There is no bit length which allocations of /20's and larger won't > quickly exhaust. It's not about the number of bits, it's about how we > choose to use them. > > Regards, > Bill Herrin True, but how many orgs do we expect to fall into that category? If the majority are getting /32, and onl

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Brandon Ross wrote: > Okay, I'm just curious, what size do you (and other's of similar opinion) > think the IPv6 space _should_ have been in order to allow us to not have to > jump through conservation hoops ever again? 128 bits isn't enough, clearly, > 256? 1k?

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-09-27, at 10:40, Brandon Ross wrote: > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013, Ryan McIntosh wrote: > >> It's a waste, even if we're "planning for the future", no one house >> needs a /64 sitting on their lan.. or at least none I can sensibly >> think of o_O. > > Okay, I'm just curious, what size do you

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Brandon Ross
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013, Ryan McIntosh wrote: It's a waste, even if we're "planning for the future", no one house needs a /64 sitting on their lan.. or at least none I can sensibly think of o_O. Okay, I'm just curious, what size do you (and other's of similar opinion) think the IPv6 space _should

Re: Filter-based routing table management (was: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size)

2013-09-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > Oh this sure will be fun. For a good time, see how GSMA handles connectivity > with IPXs. Hi Scott, For those of us who aren't deeply engrossed in GSM mobile telecom, would you offer a synopsis? Thanks, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ..

Re: Filter-based routing table management (was: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size)

2013-09-27 Thread John Curran
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > y'know, it's funny. there is a market in ipv4 space. there is no > market in routing table slots. perhaps this is not conspiracy but > rather the market is speaking. That easily could be the case. So how well is has the current model been work

Re: Radware vs Arbor

2013-09-27 Thread Steve
A10 is in pretty early stages right now on DDoS , this may be a good thing if you have time to wait and can help mold them a bit. They are still mostly enterprise focused , not really carrier grade . Radware is a little further along, but Arbor is king when it comes suitability for a carrier d

Re: Radware vs Arbor

2013-09-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Hi, Maybe you can see what A10 Networks is doing. They build a new product dedicated to DDOS. Regards Fabien Le 26 sept. 2013 à 18:47, Tempest a écrit : > Doing a bunch of research, and I can't find a meaningful comparison of > these two products. Work for a carrier, and I am looking at imp

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread Ryan McIntosh
I don't respond to many of these threads but I have to say I've contested this one too only to have to beaten into my head that a /64 is "appropriate".. it still hasn't stuck, but unfortunately rfc's for other protocols depend on the blocks to now be a /64.. It's a waste, even if we're "planning f

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-27 Thread Darren O'Connor
It's back with this: "Ben quite succinctly sums it up on a nanog mailing list, “Your (the service provider) user is paying you to push packets. If that’s causing you a problem, you either need to review your commercial structure (i.e. charge people more) or your technical network design. Face th