Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Warren Bailey
http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of that data? And how would it be done without

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Tammy Firefly
The wording sounds like it was tied to his yahoo account Tammy Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:24, Warren Bailey wrote: > http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html > > Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is alway

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Lee
On 12/8/13, Warren Bailey wrote: > > http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html > > Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what > software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of > t

RE: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Phil Bedard
Have you ever heard of Java and Flash? There is a reason why browsers explicitly disable Java, heck OSX removed it from the OS completely. Flash will run sandboxed in newer browsers but Java afaik cannot. Almost all malware is delivered using them, one research company I read about has lists of non

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread David Hiers
So what? Just another day in the cyber battlespace, friends. David On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Phil Bedard wrote: > Have you ever heard of Java and Flash? There is a reason why browsers > explicitly disable Java, heck OSX removed it from the OS completely. > Flash will run sandboxed in

Re: 844 INWATS prefix activated

2013-12-08 Thread Eric Oosting
How does team-cymru.org not have a bgp feed of these? On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Note, if you're the PBX guy somewhere, too, that the +1 844 toll free > prefix > was activated at 1200EST today. > > Cheers, > -- jra > > -- > Make Election Day a federal holiday: http://

Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet

2013-12-08 Thread Merike Kaeo
On Dec 6, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > >> >> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Brandon Galbraith >> wrote: >> >>> If your flows are a target, or your data is of an extremely sensitive >>> nature (diplomatic, etc), why aren't you

Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrote: I've been getting several of these (empty messages) from different people and on different subjects but always on the NANOG list. Secret messages? Or is NSA sucking too hard? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread ML
On 12/8/2013 4:59 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrote: >> > > I've been getting several of these (empty messages) from different > people and on different subjects but always on the NANOG list. > > Secret messages? Or is NSA sucking too hard? > I confirm I've been

Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet

2013-12-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Merike Kaeo" > I greatly dislike the term 'VPN'…..always have and always will. > Marketechture is awesome! As long as you correctly expand it as Virtual Private Nightmare, I don't see that it's troublesome at all... Cheers, -- jra -- Make Election Day a f

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Jon Sands
Confirming I've also been receiving blank messages. Most recently Michael Browns email sent at 9:13am 12/8/13 -- Jon Sands

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-12-08 03:24 AM, Warren Bailey wrote: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-12-08 04:59 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrote: I've been getting several of these (empty messages) from different people and on different subjects but always on the NANOG list. Secret messages? Or is NSA sucking too hard? This I can solidly attribut

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread /dev/ph0b0s
On 12/08, Warren Bailey wrote: > http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html > > Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what > software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather > all of that

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Warren Bailey < wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote: > Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what > software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of > that data? And how would it be done without the OS

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
Same here, they are written with invisible bits, like invisible ink. You have to drop some special lemon juice on your email client to be able to see it. -Jorge > On Dec 8, 2013, at 4:24 PM, ML wrote: > >> On 12/8/2013 4:59 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: >>> On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrot

Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-08 Thread Phil Karn
On 12/06/2013 05:54 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Currently, without a limit, there is nothing to convince a end user to > make any attempt at conserving bandwidth and no revenue to cover the > cost of additional equipment to serve high bandwidth customers.By > adding a cap or overage charge we

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-12-08 10:02 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: Same here, they are written with invisible bits, like invisible ink. You have to drop some special lemon juice on your email client to be able to see it. Lemon juice as promised, to be applied prior to de-HTML-izing email: http://stackoverflow.com/q/20

Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet

2013-12-08 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Merike Kaeo wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Jared Mauch > wrote: > > > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Brandon Galbraith < > brandon.galbra...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> If your flow

Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-08 Thread Dave Crocker
On 12/8/2013 7:55 PM, Phil Karn wrote: It costs you nothing to let people use capacity that would otherwise go to waste, and it increases the perceived value of your service. Sometimes, yes. Othertimes, perhaps not. I seem to recall an early bit of research on interactive computing (maybe b

Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Dave Crocker" > I seem to recall an early bit of research on interactive computing > (maybe by Sackman) that showed user preference for a /worse/ average > response time that was more predictable (narrower range of variance) > than a better average time that

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-08 Thread Brandon Ross
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: We have the same deal here, for the same price per month you can have access to ~80 megabit/s LTE, or you can have 100/10 cable. The problem is that with LTE you get 80 gigabytes/month in cap. The cable connection doesn't have a cap. It does now,

Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-08 Thread Jeff Kell
On 12/9/2013 12:48 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > A 3270 that took 5 seconds of delay and then *snapped* the entire screen > up at once was perceived as "faster" than a 9600 tty that painted the same > entire screen in about a second and a half or so. Don't remember who it > was either, but likely Bell

Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-08 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 12/8/2013 11:48 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dave Crocker" I seem to recall an early bit of research on interactive computing (maybe by Sackman) that showed user preference for a /worse/ average response time that was more predictable (narrower range of vari

Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-08 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jeff Kell wrote: > ... With 3270 you have little choice other > than "full screen" transactions. It has been a long long time, but for the truly crazy, I thought it was possible to write single characters at a time (using a Set Buffer Address and then the character