Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Martin Hotze
From: Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release You can download an ISO and burn it to install... Guessing if your upgrading multiple machines, that would be the way to go... You don't even need to burn it to install. Just mount the ISO and run setup.exe I've

RE: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Martin Hotze
From: STARNES, CURTIS [mailto:curtis.star...@granburyisd.org] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 is the download URL. This site launches the Download Tool so the ISO can be downloaded from Microsoft. Yeah, I know. But is it allowed to redistribute the .iso File(s)?

RE: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread STARNES, CURTIS
Not sure about distributing but I would think it would be ok since it is an ISO for upgrading and the site says if it is a new installation a product key would be needed. Curtis -Original Message- From: Martin Hotze [mailto:m.ho...@hotze.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:17 AM To:

Re: Working with Spamhaus

2015-07-30 Thread Michael O Holstein
If you implement SPF / DKIM / DMARC / ADSP, force your customers to relay Before we went SaaS with email we had lots of spam problems and we also went this route .. you must relay through us and authenticate .. postfix along with the dkim and policyd milters (and SPF in DNS). The policyd one

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Tiernan OToole
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Not sure about open public but you can use that ISO on whatever many machines your licensed to... - --Tiernan On 30/07/2015 13:11, Martin Hotze wrote: From: Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release You can download an ISO

RE: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread STARNES, CURTIS
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 is the download URL. This site launches the Download Tool so the ISO can be downloaded from Microsoft. Curtis -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Martin Hotze Sent: Thursday, July 30,

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Then they might want to show an official MD5/SHA1 on their website for the media. Or maybe simply offer a torrent/magnet-link ... Kind regards, Stefan On 30.07.2015 15:19, STARNES, CURTIS wrote: Not sure about distributing but I would think it would be ok since it is an ISO for upgrading and

Re: Working with Spamhaus

2015-07-30 Thread Private Sender via NANOG
If you implement SPF / DKIM / DMARC / ADSP, force your customers to relay their mail through something you control, and show them you are serious about stopping the spam they may work with you then. Otherwise, they just assume you're a spam house.

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Justin Mckillican
Nope. For the upgrade the only piece of information MSFT needed was your email if you chose email notification once the upgrade was ready for you. After it's installed it will ask to finish up the install the 'Express' method which enabled a bunch of things like WIFI password sharing to

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Scott Helms
I was just thinking about my remaining Win 7 box _after_ I hit send and I believe you're correct (I have one still to upgrade). Which means users upgrading from 7 to 10 will need to create an ID, but users of 8 and 8.1 will use the one they already have. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Scott Helms
Justin, That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 http://twitter.com/kscotthelms

RE: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Matthew Black
Are users required to create any type of Microsoft cloud account (e.g., OneDrive, Office365, et alil) in order to install and use Windows 10? Of Office? Is it possible to simply use Windows 10 without any Microsoft or Google or Yahoo accounts? Is the unique identifier available to advertisers

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Scott Helms
Since the requirement is that users are upgrading from Win 7, 8, or 8.1 they've already had to create at least a minimal MS ID which means either creating an email account on Outlook.com or providing an existing email address and a password for MS. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Brooks Bridges
Just as a point of debate, I've been using Windows 7 for quite some time and I do not, nor have I ever, given MS any email information or have I created a Live account. On 7/30/2015 7:19 AM, Scott Helms wrote: Since the requirement is that users are upgrading from Win 7, 8, or 8.1 they've

RE: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Childs, Aaron
You do not have to create or use a Microsoft account to use Windows 10 or any of the apps (other than the MS Store.) You can continue to log in to Windows using a local account. Aaron Childs Associate Director, Infrastructure Services  Information Technology Services Wilson Hall - 577 Western

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Ted Hardie
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, John Kristoff j...@cymru.com wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:42:46 +0530 Glen Kent glen.k...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a reason why this is often done so? Is this because UDP is stateless and any script kiddie could launch a DOS attack with a UDP stream?

NANOG isn't for desktop OS licensing support, was: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Chuck Church
I hate to be that guy, but this is getting really outside the scope of NANOG. Chuck -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joe Greco Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:58 PM To: Scott Helms khe...@zcorum.com Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re:

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:42:46 +0530 Glen Kent glen.k...@gmail.com wrote: Is it true that UDP is often subjected to stiffer rate limits than TCP? Yes, although I'm not sure how widespread this is in most, if even many networks. Probably not very widely deployed today, but restrictions and

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Ca By
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, John Kristoff j...@cymru.com wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:42:46 +0530 Glen Kent glen.k...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a reason why this is often done so? Is this because UDP is

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 27 Jul 2015, at 21:12, Glen Kent wrote: Given the state of affairs these days how difficult is it going to be for somebody to launch a DOS attack with some other protocol? https://app.box.com/s/r7an1moswtc7ce58f8gg --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Keith Stokes
“Forever” is a long time. We’re shooting for not having to change people’s address multiple times per week while still trying to help them save costs by not paying extra for “official static IPs. Changing every 6 months as some have pointed out as their experience is perfectly acceptable to

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Ricky Beam
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:02:06 -0400, Keith Stokes kei...@neilltech.com wrote: 1. Is it really accurate that the customer’s address is tied to the modem/router? To the 802.1x identity of the device, yes. That's the unit serial number, which (partial) contains the MAC. 2. For my curiosity,

Re: DDOS Simulation

2015-07-30 Thread alvin nanog
hi roland - yup... agreed on most all of your points ... - good referral to prev ddos discussions - i'm just saying .. if one cannot defend and know that their ddos mitigation is working on the low level free script kiddie ddos attacks, they should not worry about

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Jason Baugher
To bring this discussion to specifics, we've been fighting an issue where our customers are experiencing poor audio quality on SIP calls. The only carrier between our customers and the hosted VoIP provider is Level3. From multiple wiresharks, it appears that a certain percentage of UDP packets -

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Jason Baugher
Oh, I'm aware of the function of an NNI. I even accept that a carrier might feel the need to filter bad traffic. I've certainly done so for things like the Moon exploit. What I don't like is arbitrary filtering of traffic and the denial of such filtering by the carrier. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Randy Bush
In one case, when we were having an issue with a SIP trunk, we re-numbered our end to another IP in the same subnet. Same path from A to Z, but the packet loss mysteriously disappeared using the new IP. lag hash put you on a congested fiber?

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Jason Baugher
Several months ago we had an issue with a customer whose IPSEC tunnels we manage. One of the tunnels dropped, and after troubleshooting we were able to prove that only udp/500 was being blocked in one direction for one specific source and destination IP. Level3 resolved the issue, but claimed it

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Jason Baugher ja...@thebaughers.com wrote: Several months ago we had an issue with a customer whose IPSEC tunnels we manage. One of the tunnels dropped, and after troubleshooting we were able to prove that only udp/500 was being blocked in one direction for one

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Jason Baugher
In one case, when we were having an issue with a SIP trunk, we re-numbered our end to another IP in the same subnet. Same path from A to Z, but the packet loss mysteriously disappeared using the new IP. It sure seems like they are throttling somewhere. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Matt Hoppes

ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Keith Stokes
I’m wondering if some can share their experiences or maybe there’s an ATT person here who can confirm policy. I work for SaaS provider who requires a source IP to access our system to businesses. Normally we tell the customer to request a “Static IP” from their provider. That term makes sense

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Ca By
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Keith Stokes kei...@neilltech.com wrote: I’m wondering if some can share their experiences or maybe there’s an ATT person here who can confirm policy. I work for SaaS provider who requires a source IP to access our system to businesses. That is probably a

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Keith Stokes
Access is not the only reason we ask for non-changing source IP addresses. I’m not arguing the long-term sensibility of the approach. It’s arguably a legacy app and has 5000 endpoints that we have to still support until different solutions on our side are complete. That process is outside of my

Re: Verizon exiting California

2015-07-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Everything landline in your area is going. The enterprise and wireless businesses are staying Verizon. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Matthew Black

Mac compatible SFP+/XFP programmer

2015-07-30 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Does anyone know where I might find a SFP+/XFP programmer with a Mac compatible programmer application? Thanks!

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
People need to really stop using Source IP as an ACL mechanism whereever possible. Have you considered using SSL certs or SSH keys or some other sort of API key instead? I'm mean, do you really want to have to know how the technology of every ISP that every possible SaaS customer may use to

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Joe Greco
I was just thinking about my remaining Win 7 box _after_ I hit send and I believe you're correct (I have one still to upgrade). Which means users upgrading from 7 to 10 will need to create an ID, but users of 8 and 8.1 will use the one they already have. This is incorrect. While the Win

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread James Hartig
I've had ATT UVerse for 3 years now and it has changed at least twice since I got it. The DHCP address has an expiration of ~7 days and it usually keeps the same address upon renewal but a few times I have noticed that it's changed. I wouldn't trust it to be static forever. -- James Hartig

Re: DDOS Simulation

2015-07-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:38:18 -0700, alvin nanog said: On 07/29/15 at 05:47am, Roland Dobbins wrote: On 29 Jul 2015, at 5:19, alvin nanog wrote: and all the other ISP's routers along the way that had to transport those gigabyte/terabyte of useless ddos packets No company can provide a

Verizon exiting California

2015-07-30 Thread Matthew Black
Verizon sent me a letter the other day stating that they are selling their landline business to Frontier Communications. It was a very terse letter and as a customer I don't know if it affects me. While stating they aren't exiting the Wireless business, I want to know which parts are being sold

Re: Verizon exiting California

2015-07-30 Thread Colton Conor
I would love to see what a copy of the letter they sent out looks like. They are selling all wireline in CA, TX, and FL. So yes, all the products you described. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Matthew Black matthew.bl...@csulb.edu wrote: Verizon sent me a letter the other day stating that

Re: Windows 10 Release

2015-07-30 Thread Joe Greco
Justin, That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have. Wow, then, problem solved, because it's at least twice as hard to get your Microsoft Account set up, configured, and verified. The sticky

RE: Verizon exiting California

2015-07-30 Thread Matthew Black
Nevermind. I found a February article detailing the plan. arstechnica: Verizon sells three-state territory, including 1.6 million FiOS users http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/02/verizon-sells-three-state-territory-including-1-6-million-fios-users/ matthew black california state university,

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Ca By cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Keith Stokes kei...@neilltech.com wrote: I’m wondering if some can share their experiences or maybe there’s an ATT person here who can confirm policy. I work for SaaS provider who requires a

Re: [BULK] Verizon exiting California

2015-07-30 Thread Robert Glover
On 7/30/2015 9:26 AM, Matthew Black wrote: Verizon sent me a letter the other day stating that they are selling their landline business to Frontier Communications. It was a very terse letter and as a customer I don't know if it affects me. While stating they aren't exiting the Wireless

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
No. But I've seen Level3 just have really bad packet loss. On Jul 30, 2015, at 22:12, Jason Baugher ja...@thebaughers.com wrote: To bring this discussion to specifics, we've been fighting an issue where our customers are experiencing poor audio quality on SIP calls. The only carrier

Re: UDP clamped on service provider links

2015-07-30 Thread Tom Sands
We have similar problems with UDP 500 and being able to keep IPSEC tunnels up over Level3. It happens quite a bit when there are no signs of TCP or ICMP packet loss. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:14 PM, Jason Baugher ja...@thebaughers.com wrote: To bring this discussion to

Re: Mac compatible SFP+/XFP programmer

2015-07-30 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hi, Flexoptics seems to do the trick but via a Web browser : https://www.flexoptix.net/en/flexbox-v3-transceiver-programmer.html From what I've heard, this thing does the Job. Best regards. Le 30 juil. 2015 à 20:28, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca a écrit : Does anyone know where I might

Re: ATT U-Verse Data Setup Convention

2015-07-30 Thread Dan Drown
I have ATT u-verse small business connection at my office with a static IP setup, and my experience matches with the ATT tech said. We have a separate router behind the ATT router. The ATT router is an Arris (former Motorola) NVG595. Our router has a static IP out of our subnet and does