Connecting rural providers: ethernet to large city or nearby transit

Generic question. Say you have a municipal provider in small town where the municipality won the subsidy over the incumbent to deploy broadband. The easiest is for the town's ISP to buy transit from the incumbent. But incumbent will not be interested in offering competitive pricing. As a

Re: mpls switches

On 13/Apr/16 02:29, Colton Conor wrote: > Someone told me to check out extreme networks, cisco or Ciena for the > more cost effective mpls kit. Any advice on which of the three would > have the most cost effective 10G MPLS switch? > > Cisco's MPLS switch is the ASR 920 right? The useful ones

Re: mpls switches

Someone told me to check out extreme networks, cisco or Ciena for the more cost effective mpls kit. Any advice on which of the three would have the most cost effective 10G MPLS switch? Cisco's MPLS switch is the ASR 920 right? On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:13 PM, George, Wes

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

All GeoIP services would be forced to document their default lat/long values so that users know that when these values, they know it is a generic one for that country. (or supply +181. +91.0 which is an invalid value indicating that there is no lat/long, look at country code given).

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

> On Apr 12, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > > On 2016-04-11 13:22, Ken Chase wrote: >> Well they DO know the IP location is within the USA - > > > A friend in Australia was with an ISP onwed by a US firm and his IP > address often geolocated to the USA. > Similarly, IPv6

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

Re: Sending police to middle of a lake.. Puts new meaning to a fishing expedition for police :-)

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 2016-04-11 13:34, Steve Mikulasik wrote: > Mather says they’re going to change them. They are picking new default > locations for the U.S. and Ashburn, Virginia that are in the middle of bodies > of water, Why not the White House or Wahington Monument ? Or better yet, some large office

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/12/2016 08:31, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 03:10:44PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: If GeoIP insists on giving a specific lon/lat, instead of an uncertaintity how about using locations such as the followign as the "default I don't know where it is"

Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

--- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan https://fcw.com/articles/2016/04/11/lyngaas-halvorsen-update.aspx - Wow, this is big news in that article for the companies that deal with selling network devices and computers to

Re: mpls switches

On 4/12/16, 9:22 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Tim Jackson" wrote: >>> (Broadcom chipset, >> approach with caution). > >QFX5100 works fine for MPLS.. [snip] QFX5100 is a >great P and lightweight PE.. WG] For some values of "fine" and

Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

Guess what, an IG decides to count "data centers" using OMB's definition of a data center. CIO points out those "data centers" won't save money. https://fcw.com/articles/2016/04/11/lyngaas-halvorsen-update.aspx The IG report knocked Halvorsen for not adjusting his strategy to account for a

Re: Any ATT.net mail admins here?

Got this a few months ago, posting publically so it makes it into the archives for the next guy. > Thank you for contacting the AT Postmaster. > > We

Re: mpls switches

On Tuesday, 12 April, 2016 14:04, "Colton Conor" said: > Do the Juniper EX switches support MPLS? I know they have models with > multiple 10G ports on them. There is also the QFX series. The EXes can also run in a "fabric extender" mode to the MX (and others?).

Re: Telco Systems

I know of a WISP in Puerto Rico that loves them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Colton Conor" To: "NANOG"

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:55 AM, John Levine wrote: > > Please don't guess (like, you know, MaxMind does.) USPS has its own > database of all of the deliverable addresses in the country. They > have their problems, but give or take data staleness as buildings > are built or

Re: mpls switches

On 12/Apr/16 15:22, Tim Jackson wrote: > QFX5100 works fine for MPLS.. ACX5k is QFX5100 hardware, but a > different train of software, and it's a bit different. QFX5100 is a > great P and lightweight PE.. As a P, fine (except if you're doing NG-MVPN, of course, which would make it a poor

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

In a message written on Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 03:10:44PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > If GeoIP insists on giving a specific lon/lat, instead of an uncertaintity > how about using locations such as the followign as the "default I don't > know where it is" > > United States: 38.8899 N, 77.0091 W

Any ATT.net mail admins here?

I have two spam filters that relay outbound mail for a few dozen companies, and as such generate a fair amount of traffic. We are fairly strict with the spam filtering on outbound mail, but somehow end up blacklisted by ATT/Prodigy/Bellsouth a few times a year.

Re: mpls switches

>> Do the Juniper EX switches support MPLS? I know they have models with >> multiple 10G ports on them. > > They do, but (deliberately) broken. I wouldn't try it. EX4600 does MPLS just fine, nothing else really does in the EX series.. EX4200 can do 1 label. The EX4600 featureset is pretty much

Re: mpls switches

On 12/Apr/16 15:04, Colton Conor wrote: > Do the Juniper EX switches support MPLS? I know they have models with > multiple 10G ports on them. They do, but (deliberately) broken. I wouldn't try it. > There is also the QFX series. Not that I know of, but the ACX is a QFX-derivative (Broadcom

Re: mpls switches

I know the 4500/4550 does but it requires a license. On Apr 12, 2016 8:07 AM, "Colton Conor" wrote: > Do the Juniper EX switches support MPLS? I know they have models with > multiple 10G ports on them. There is also the QFX series. > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Mike

Telco Systems

Does anyone use Telco Systems Carrier Ethernet & MPLS Aggregation Switches? I have heard good things about them. Overall, the saying is they price 10G ethernet switches at 1G ethernet pricing. It looks like they support MPLS.

Re: mpls switches

Do the Juniper EX switches support MPLS? I know they have models with multiple 10G ports on them. There is also the QFX series. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Mike wrote: > Hi, > > Im looking to deploy more mpls in my network. I like the Cisco 3600X > series

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

In article <20160411191347.gc4...@excession.tpb.net> you write: >* baldur.nordd...@gmail.com (Baldur Norddahl) [Mon 11 Apr 2016, 21:02 CEST]: >>They should stop giving out coordinates on houses period. Move the >>coordinate to the nearest street intersection if you need to be that >>precise (I

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 06:15:08PM -, John Levine wrote: > > >The problem with MaxMind (and other geoip databases I've seen that do > >Lat/Long as well as Country / State / Town) is that the > >data doesn't include uncertainty, so it returns "38.0/-97.0" rather than > >"somewhere in a 3000