On Friday, 10 June, 2016 05:48, "Mark Foster" said:
> Router-jockeys and purists often cite this. I've done it myself.
> But there are a lot more moving parts in most service providers than
> simply the ones and zeros.
> Bandwidth Accounting, Billing, Provisioning systems in particular - and
>
In message <0e36af3e-9781-4f2b-1080-af915fff3...@blakjak.net>, Mark Foster writ
es:
>
>
> On 10/06/2016 4:38 p.m., Mark Andrews wrote:
> >> It would be nice to live in a world where that were the case. However, the
> >> world we live in is run my bean counters, and the marketing department.
> >>
On 10/06/2016 4:38 p.m., Mark Andrews wrote:
It would be nice to live in a world where that were the case. However, the
world we live in is run my bean counters, and the marketing department.
IPv6 is a huge project that is seen by them as an unnecessary expense.
Absolute BS. IPv6 has never ne
In message , "Ricky Beam" writes:
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:17:37 -0400, Mark Andrews wrote:
> > The average consumer wants a "internet connection".
>
> And sadly, they haven't a clue what that means. They plug the thing into
> the other thing, and they can click on things in their web browser.
On Thursday, June 9, 2016, Randy Bush wrote:
> >> zero interoperability, and no viable migration paths, it's a Forklift
> >> Upgrade(tm).
> >
> > You say that with such confidence! Doesn't make it true.
>
> https://archive.psg.com/120206.nanog-v4-life-extension.pdf
>
> randy, who works for the fi
On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 20:57 -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > zero interoperability, and no viable migration paths, it's a
> > > Forklift
> > > Upgrade(tm).
> >
> > You say that with such confidence! Doesn't make it true.
>
> https://archive.psg.com/120206.nanog-v4-life-extension.pdf
Zero interoper
>> zero interoperability, and no viable migration paths, it's a Forklift
>> Upgrade(tm).
>
> You say that with such confidence! Doesn't make it true.
https://archive.psg.com/120206.nanog-v4-life-extension.pdf
randy, who works for the first isp to deploy ipv6 to customers
>> The average consumer wants a "internet connection".
> And sadly, they haven't a clue what that means.
no; happily. this is not 1904 where you have to be a mechanic to drive
a car. i just want my mtv; shut up and make it work.
On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 22:54 -0400, Ricky Beam wrote:
> zero interoperability, and no viable migration paths,
> it's a Forklift Upgrade(tm).
You say that with such confidence! Doesn't make it true. Plenty of
people around the world have upgraded, and I bet you couldn't find ONE
that did it as a "
On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 21:41:05 -0400, Baldur Norddahl
wrote:
Then he reads on NANOG that since he has IPv6
he can just connect to the camera with that.
...
Only to find the built-in stateful firewall blocks unsolicited inbound
connections. Now he has to figure out how to manipulate ACLs. Or
On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:17:37 -0400, Mark Andrews wrote:
The average consumer wants a "internet connection".
And sadly, they haven't a clue what that means. They plug the thing into
the other thing, and they can click on things in their web browser.
They're why we have boxes with color code
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On 10 June 2016 at 01:17, Mark Andrews wrote:
> The average consumer wants a "internet connection". They don't
> care if it is IPv4, IPv6 or IPvX. They just want the bits to move.
> What will happen is that as CGN starts to break things for people
> like gamers they will start asking for IPv6,
In message , "Ricky Beam" writes:
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:32:24 -0400, Adam Rothschild
> wrote:
> > How can we, as a community, help move the needle
> > on v6 deployment on broadband networks, in cases where competitive
> > forces and market pressure don't exist?
>
> You left out "consumer de
On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:32:24 -0400, Adam Rothschild
wrote:
How can we, as a community, help move the needle
on v6 deployment on broadband networks, in cases where competitive
forces and market pressure don't exist?
You left out "consumer demand". And I would add consumer knowledge as well
-
This is great...the kind of inputs/insights I was hoping for.
Thank you :)
Sriram
From: Mark Tinka
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:24 AM
To: nanog-p...@rsuc.gweep.net; Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
Cc: Job Snijders; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: intra-AS mess
I suspect we should just accept that IPv6 is never actually happening with
all this infighting of its own very vocal proponents.
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:49 PM Steve Mikulasik
wrote:
> https://i.imgur.com/LvVHJZf.png
>
> I had to make this, talking about IPv6 or geo-ip in nanog is like throwing
Could someone from Novell / Attachmate Corporation contact me off list.
We are showing high latency getting to www.novell.com and dropped traffic.
Currently, we are unable to reach anything at novell.com
15 156 ms 371 ms 229 ms tg9-1.ar10.lsvlnv23.integra.net [209.63.100.146]
1687 m
https://i.imgur.com/LvVHJZf.png
I had to make this, talking about IPv6 or geo-ip in nanog is like throwing
blood in the water :)
I think tunnelbroker.net is an great community service, and a
significant factor in global IPv6 adoption. For one, it's allowed me
to experiment with v6 from my home ~5 miles from NYC, where there are
still no options for native connectivity. Hats off to Mike and the
entire HE team for maintainin
Yes, but depends on HW. They support some pretty huge environments.
You have to have "enough" IOPs to keep up with the polling, DB and RRD data.
Then there will never be a "heavy" load...
I would contact them and based on your needs ask them what HW you will
need for your implementation.
You can
Hi,
> Op 8 jun. 2016, om 23:39 heeft John Lightfoot het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> How about:
>
> Dear Netflix network engineer who’s on the NANOG list. Could you please get
> Netflix to fall back to ipv4
Just for geolocation please, the streaming works fine over IPv6 :)
> if you block you
Your correct. I misread your email. Not enough blood in my caffeine stream yet.
I think your idea of a button and/or a daily/weekly update to maxmind based on
the source IPv4 address would be a good idea regardless of Netflix.
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Director of Opera
Uhm I think you misunderstood me. What you describe matches what I
described. I never suggested the user can override it with it another
value, I am suggesting that a user may want to keep it to whatever default
value it is as a matter of privacy concerns. Otherwise use the IPv4 tunnel
end point IP
I think you are missing the point. The problem is not that the GeoIP info is
missing, the problem with the HE.tunnel is that the GeoIP is not set by the
provider by verifiable means. Letting end-users set their GeoIP information is
a non-starter for the content provider and they would still requ
I wonder how hard it would be for HE to implement some button on their
tunnel portal that when selected will update Maxmind's (or whatever)
geolocation for their allocated IPv6 prefixes to match the results returned
when querying for their IPv4 tunnel end point address...
I would suggest to make i
I like horde (with dove cot doing imaps) because it speaks ActiveSync
natively.
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Original message
From: alvin nanog
Date: 6/8/2016 21:37 (GMT-05:00)
To: eric.kuh...@gmail.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: W
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
A start would be blocking 2620:108:700f::/64 as discovered by a simple DNS
lookup on netflix.com. I am not running a HE tunnel (I got native IPv6) and I
am not blocked from accessing Netflix over IPv6 so can't really try it. I am
I sent some email ea
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Mark Andrews wrote:
And which set of prefixes is that? How often do they change? etc.
Apparently there's only 2620:108:7000::/44 and I doubt it'll change often.
An associate actually reported this problem to me today. I ended up just
installing a host firewall rule on h
Hi all,
a quick update from the DE-CIX side: we see in total 25 routes containing bogon
ASNs at all the route servers at all DE-CIX IXPs (so far we just filtered the
private ASN space). We directly contacted the customers sending the routes to
inform them about the upcoming change in filtering.
How about:
Dear Netflix network engineer who’s on the NANOG list. Could you please get
Netflix to fall back to ipv4 if you block your customer’s ipv6 because it’s in
an HE tunnel? Lots of people who want to watch Netflix, be able to reach the
whole internet, and have Verizon FiOS would really
On 06/06/2016 10:18 AM, Manuel Marín wrote:
> Dear Nanog community
[...snipped...]
> Your input is really appreciated it
>
> Thank you and have a great day
>
> Regards
>
I have not used openNMS in production.. does it work well under heavy load?
regards,
J
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