Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Jared Mauch wrote: I’m quite surprised they didn’t send out a local emergency alert. I’ve gotten these for Tornadoes and amber alerts. Wildfires would be comparable to a Tornado IMO. Like most news stories, its a little more complicated. Napa, Sonoma sent an evacuation

Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Peter Baldridge
I know with Alexa products they just ask you for a postal code for weather updates. Probably covers 99 percent of cases. On Oct 13, 2017 4:26 PM, "Andreas Ott" wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 04:59:17PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > > Has anyone heard if the smart speaker

Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Andreas Ott
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 04:59:17PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > Has anyone heard if the smart speaker companies (Amazon Echo, Google Home) > plan to include emergency alert capability? An estimate 10% of households > own a smart speaker, and Gartner (well-known for its forecasting > accuracy)

Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
Note: Google Maps shows various alerts applicable to the region you are looking at in maps. So, assuming its Speaker is geolocated, Google would know if an alert is applicable to its location and be able to send it to the unit.

Re: abha

2017-10-13 Thread Brett Watson
On Oct 13, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > a moment of silence on this 16th anniversary of her tragic death One of the smartest geeks I have known, and she always lit up the room she was in with her smile and attitude. -b

Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Jared Mauch
I’m quite surprised they didn’t send out a local emergency alert. I’ve gotten these for Tornadoes and amber alerts. Wildfires would be comparable to a Tornado IMO. Jared Mauch > On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG > wrote: > > I messaged the Nest guys

Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
I messaged the Nest guys a few weeks ago about that very issue. I think it would be somewhat simple for them to put an RF module in their Protect devices (smoke alarms) and a speaker to alert about the issue. Since they are wifi-enabled, they could probably also arrange a clearer audio feed over

Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover

2017-10-13 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-13 17:20, Clinton Work wrote: > > My understanding is that nobody has a 2nd diverse fiber route north of > the great lakes from Winnipeg to Toronto. Every provider makes use of > a fiber route south of the great lakes thru the US in order to provide > diversity. But if provider 1

Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover

2017-10-13 Thread Clinton Work
My understanding is that nobody has a 2nd diverse fiber route north of the great lakes from Winnipeg to Toronto. Every provider makes use of a fiber route south of the great lakes thru the US in order to provide diversity. The following map shows that the CN rail and CP Rail lines across

Re: AS PATH limits

2017-10-13 Thread Job Snijders
Has anyone tried calling them? Kind regards, Job On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 at 23:03, Ken Chase wrote: > It is happening AGAIN. > > And of course it started on a friday aft 15 min before quittin' time in > EDT: > > Last time it was 186.177.184.0/23 0 174 262206 262206 262197

Re: AS PATH limits

2017-10-13 Thread Ken Chase
It is happening AGAIN. And of course it started on a friday aft 15 min before quittin' time in EDT: Last time it was 186.177.184.0/23 0 174 262206 262206 262197 262197 *> 186.176.186.0/23 38.x.x.x 45050 0 174 262206 262206 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197 262197

California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-13 Thread Sean Donelan
Has anyone heard if the smart speaker companies (Amazon Echo, Google Home) plan to include emergency alert capability? An estimate 10% of households own a smart speaker, and Gartner (well-known for its forecasting accuracy) predicts 75% of US households will have a smart speaker by 2020.

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/13/2017 2:42 PM, Naslund, Steve wrote: Funny how NANOG posts seem to precede actual attention from vendors isn't it. Squeaky wheel, grease. Same reason why it takes me berating companies on Twitter publicly before things actually get done. *Stares directly at Verizon for a previous

RE: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Naslund, Steve
Funny how NANOG posts seem to precede actual attention from vendors isn't it. Steven Naslund Chicago IL -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of David Hubbard Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 3:38 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Temp at Level 3 data

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread David Hubbard
Thanks for all the opinions and experiences with this on this on and off list. The facility in question is not one that has a cold/hot row or containment concept so ambient temp plays a greater role than in other facilities. Some folks from Level 3 reached out and are working to help me with

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Roy
On 2017-10-13 14:10, Roy wrote: The IBM 308x and 309x series mainframes were water cooled. The bank I worked for had just installed one. A big change were noise levels, the thing was really quiet. But servicing now required a plumber too. (there was a separate cabinet for the water pumps as

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Martin Hannigan
Hi David, 80F seems ~reasonable to me. What is the inlet temp, the temperature air is going in at? What kind of gear are operating? Routers and switches? Servers? Disk? Is the cabinet top fan working? Most modern equipment should be able to handle those temps. As another poster noted, are these

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-13 14:10, Roy wrote: > > > The IBM 308x and 309x series mainframes were water cooled. The bank I worked for had just installed one. A big change were noise levels, the thing was really quiet. But servicing now required a plumber too. (there was a separate cabinet for the water

Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover

2017-10-13 Thread Eric Kuhnke
On a somewhat related note, if anyone has KMZs of the railway-based ROWs from Calgary-Vancouver (Fraser Valley area) and is able to share them, please contact me off list. I'm hoping to avoid re-inventing the wheel and time/labor of manually creating vector lines along the known railway corridors,

Hong Kong to SHANGHAI routes

2017-10-13 Thread Michael Morrison
We have noticed there's been an increase in latency from Hong Kong to SHANGHAI. Usually running about 70-80ms, up over 300ms now. Per a traceroute I can see NTT is jumping over to LA before going over to Sha(China Unicom) via Level 3. Anyone else on this thread seen this behavior and or have

Re: abha

2017-10-13 Thread Jaren Angerbauer
> > a moment of silence on this 16th anniversary of her tragic death > > and another for an idiot who can not use ical. sorry. > Friday the 13th.

Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover

2017-10-13 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
Answer from Allstream (aka Zayo) A combination: Tor-Ott-Mtl N route is CP & S route is CN. From Tor-Wpg its mostly CN on the N route and the S goes thru various US routes. So Allstream would get you out west via the more northern CN line from Toronto. So you would need to find someone who has

Re: abha

2017-10-13 Thread Randy Bush
> a moment of silence on this 16th anniversary of her tragic death and another for an idiot who can not use ical. sorry.

abha

2017-10-13 Thread Randy Bush
a moment of silence on this 16th anniversary of her tragic death

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Roy
The IBM 308x and 309x series mainframes were water cooled.  They did have Thermal Conduction Modules which had a helium-filled metal cap, which contains one piston per chip; the piston presses against the back of each chip to provide a heat conduction path from the chip to the cap.  The cap

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, b...@theworld.com said: > Also, the IBM 3090 at least, was cooled via helium-filled pipes kind > of like today's liquid cooled systems. It was full of plumbing. If you > opened it up some chips were right on copper junction boxes (maybe > they were just

Re: Temp at Level 3 data centers

2017-10-13 Thread bzs
On October 12, 2017 at 19:56 jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca (Jean-Francois Mezei) wrote: > back in the arly 1990s, Tandem had a computer called "Cyclone". (these > were mission critical, fault tolerant machines). ok old fart stories...tho maybe current. IBM's big mainframes would repeat

Rogers Cable contact

2017-10-13 Thread Ruairi Carroll
Hello, Does anyone have a technical contact in Rogers (AS 812) they could refer me to to fix up some issues? Cheers /Ruairi

Re: 4 or smaller digit ASNs

2017-10-13 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 05:01:13AM +, James Breeden wrote: > I have a client interested in picking up a new AS number but they really want > it to be 3 or 4 digits in length. As other's have said, that's difficult. What about going the other way? Ask for 2^32-1. "We

Re: 4 or smaller digit ASNs

2017-10-13 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Check: https://web.archive.org/web/20030619092539/http://bgp. potaroo.net:80/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS2906=(null) Appears in 2003 it was: OrgName:NCR Corporation -c On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Brett Watson wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2017, at 15:53, Richard Hicks

Re: replacing compromised biometric authenticators

2017-10-13 Thread Jörg Kost
Hi, in the case I mentioned, the datacenter provider (=Level3) removed hand geometry scanners from its facility and switched all users to card + pin. Also the provider is going to run this policy Germany- or even Europe-wide, as being told by Level3 account rep. The mentioned facility does

Re: 4 or smaller digit ASNs

2017-10-13 Thread Dave Temkin
I appreciate your tenacity! SSI = Streaming Services Inc., always wholly owned by Netflix. We had three ASNs at one point. We needed a fourth to do a migration and the ASN gods smiled down on us and gave us 2906 out of a newly released pool of unallocated ASNs, back in 2011. That ASN birthed

Looking for a contact with clue at Choopa/Reliablesite network engineering

2017-10-13 Thread Paul S.
Hi nanog, Choopa/reliablesite is announcing our IP space, and despite repeated requests from us, they are refusing to withdraw the announcements. Can someone with clue from this contact me? Does anyone know someone at Choopa neteng? Their abuse desk has so far proved useless.

Re: 4 or smaller digit ASNs

2017-10-13 Thread Lee Howard
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:01 AM, James Breeden wrote: > > Hello NANOG... > > I have a client interested in picking up a new AS number but they really want > it to be 3 or 4 digits in length. > > Is there a process to request this from ARIN, or doss anyone know of unused

Re: replacing compromised biometric authenticators

2017-10-13 Thread Alain Hebert
    Odd,     1. captcha(?)     In my millennia of experience I never saw a captcha used as a mean for DC access control.  Just as a programmatic way to reduce brute force for some website functions.     On my network janitor keychain I have (in order of hackability from easiest to