Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

We do have a minimum for commercial service that's more like $1500/mo but we are coming out with a free tier in Q1 with lower retention (among other deltas, but including fully slice and dice flow analytics +BGP that it sounded like Erik might be looking for). Feel free to ping me if anyone

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

On 12/31/18, Keith Medcalf wrote: >> It could have been worse: >> https://www.cio.com.au/article/65115/all_systems_down/ > > "Make network changes only between 2am and 5am on weekends." > > Wow. Just wow. yeah. out of all the possible lessons they could have learned.. > I suppose the IT

Re: IP Dslams

Most of my experience is with Calix C7 and E7 DSL, fan of both. Recently learning the Adtran TA5000, not impressed. Hardware may be solid, but management is ugly and painful. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone Original message From: Erik Sundberg Date: 12/31/18 1:32

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

Doesn't Kentik cost like $2000 a month minimum? On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 11:57 AM Matthew Crocker wrote: > +1 Kentik as well, DDoS, RTBH, Netflow. Cloud based so I don't have to > worry about it. > > On 12/31/18, 11:37 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Bryan Holloway" < > nanog-boun...@nanog.org on

Re: IP Dslams

Carl, What did you select to replace your MX BNG? To Nick, we use Adtran Total Access 5000's today. They work fine, but if I was doing a new install I would do Calix with their newer lines that have SDN BNG functions. Calix just has better CPE to go along with it, but they are just G.Fast and

Re: IP Dslams

I'd consider breaking down the two functions. Set up your customer connections using ADSL Ethernet, etc and put each unit in the building on its own CVLAN. This should never change even when the subscribers in the unit change. This way you can configure it once and never touch it again. I'd use

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:24 AM Naslund, Steve wrote: > Bad design if that’s the case, that would be a huge subnet. According to the notes at the URL Saku shared, they suffered a cascade failure from which they needed the equipment vendor's help to recover. That indicates at least two grave

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM Keith Medcalf wrote: > > It could have been worse: > > https://www.cio.com.au/article/65115/all_systems_down/ > > "Make network changes only between 2am and 5am on weekends." > > Wow. Just wow. I suppose the IT types are considerably different > than Process

RE: CenturyLink RCA?

> It could have been worse: > https://www.cio.com.au/article/65115/all_systems_down/ "Make network changes only between 2am and 5am on weekends." Wow. Just wow. I suppose the IT types are considerably different than Process Operations. Our rule is to only make changes scheduled at 09:00

Re: IP Dslams

+1 for Adtran TA5000 .. we use them, my former employer uses them with great success. There’s also the Calix series of gear that is quite good too … From: NANOG on behalf of Erik Sundberg Date: Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:31 PM To: Nick Edwards Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: RE: IP

Re: Larry Roberts, RIP.

Such irony that Roberts’ NYTimes article is behind a paywall :) Here’s a more informative, much more entertaining, and totally free article: https://www.i-programmer.info/news/82-heritage/12414-internet-pioneer-lawrence-roberts-dies-aged-81.html On Dec 30, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Dobbins, Roland

RE: CenturyLink RCA?

A note for the guys hanging on to those POTS lines…It won’t really help. One of our sites in Dubuque Iowa had ten CenturyLink PRIs (they are the LEC there) homed off of a 5ESS switch. These all were unable to process calls during the CenturyLink problem. The ISDN messaging returned indicated

Re: Disney+ CDN

I would guess they are using the Hulu platform as the backend for their streaming services going forward. They are now the primary stakeholders in Hulu (purchase of Fox). I don't know if they do cache servers however. Brian From: NANOG on behalf of Aaron

RE: IP Dslams

I haven’t used any of theses… Check out Adtran Total Access 5000 Platform…. Used by a lot of EoC / EoDS1 carriers Google: Ethernet Extender DSLAM https://enableit.com/rackmount-extender/ From: NANOG On Behalf Of Nick Edwards Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 7:36 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

This seems entirely plausible given that DWDM amplifiers and lasers being a complex analog system, they need OOB to align. -- Eric > On 31 Dec 2018, at 16:06, Saku Ytti wrote: > > Hey Steve, > > I will continue to speculate, as that's all we have. > >> 1. Are you telling me that several

Larry Roberts, RIP.

Roland Dobbins

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

There's a Reddit user claiming he works at CL who says the reason were some faulty Infinera DTN-X instances. https://www.reddit.com/r/centurylink/comments/aa2qa4/comment/ecovgab (dunno though why the user posted that to Reddit and not here) 30 Dec. 2018 г., 20:19 Saku Ytti : > Hey John, > >

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

Technical obscurity... managed perception. On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:43 Mike Hammett wrote: > It's technical enough so that laypeople immediately lose interest, yet > completely useless to anyone that works with this stuff. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Disney+ CDN

Anyone know what Disney is planning on doing for streaming content distribution once they leave Netflix? Would be nice if they'd provide an on-prem cache server. AG

IP Dslams

Howdy, We have a requirement for an aged care facility to provide voice and data, we have the voice worked out, but data, WiFi is out of the question, so are looking for IP-Dslams, preferably a system that is all-in-one, or self contained, as in contains its own BBRAS/LNS/PPP server/Radius, such

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

On 12/31/18, Aaron1 wrote: > Yeah, could have been one of those...gone from bad to worse things like Dave > mentioned... initial problem and course of action perhaps led to a worse > problem. > > I’ve had DWDM issues that have taken down multiple locations far apart from > each other due to how

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

Yeah, could have been one of those...gone from bad to worse things like Dave mentioned... initial problem and course of action perhaps led to a worse problem. I’ve had DWDM issues that have taken down multiple locations far apart from each other due to how the transport guys hauled stuff A

Re: CenturyLink

Hey Matthew, Thi > There isn't a specific regulation on free-running GPS, just "due diligence". > I work at a algorithmic program trading company (and have been for 20 years). > We have a high ROI, the cost differential for the rubidium OC versus having > to drop everything to conform to

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

+1 Kentik as well, DDoS, RTBH, Netflow. Cloud based so I don't have to worry about it. On 12/31/18, 11:37 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Bryan Holloway" wrote: +1 Kentik ... We've been using their DDoS/RTBH mitigation with good success. On 12/31/18 3:52 AM, Eric

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 11:33 AM Naslund, Steve wrote: > They shouldn’t need OOB to operate existing lambdas just to configure new > ones. One possibility is that the management interface also handles master > timing which would be a really bad idea but possible (should be redundant > and it

RE: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

I personally recommend Kentik. We mainly got it for DDoS detection which so far been 100% reliable for us Now we also use it for other traffic analysis. Query is extremely fast. Support is also fantastic. If you're looking for a feature that they may not have, just ask... From: NANOG On

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

I just recently rolled out Elastiflow. Lots of great information. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Michel 'ic' Luczak" To: "Erik Sundberg" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent:

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

+1 Kentik ... We've been using their DDoS/RTBH mitigation with good success. On 12/31/18 3:52 AM, Eric Lindsjö wrote: Hi, We use kentik and we're very happy. Works great, tons of new features coming along all the time. Going to start looking into ddos detection and mitigation soon. Would

RE: CenturyLink RCA?

They shouldn’t need OOB to operate existing lambdas just to configure new ones. One possibility is that the management interface also handles master timing which would be a really bad idea but possible (should be redundant and it should be able to free run for a reasonable amount of time).

RE: CenturyLink RCA?

I agree 100%. Now they need to figure out why bricking the management network stopped forwarding on the optical side. > (Forgive my top posting, not on my desktop as I’m out of town) Steven Naslund Chicago IL > >Wild guess, based on my own experience as a NOC admin/head of operations at a

RE: CenturyLink RCA?

See my comments in line. Steve >Hey Steve, >I will continue to speculate, as that's all we have. > 1. Are you telling me that several line cards failed in multiple cities in > the same way at the same time? Don't think so unless the same software fault > was propagated to all of them. If

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

(Forgive my top posting, not on my desktop as I’m out of town) Wild guess, based on my own experience as a NOC admin/head of operations at a large ISP - they have an automated deployment system for new firmware for a (mission critical) piece of backbone hardware. They may have tested said

Re: CenturyLink RCA?

Hey Steve, I will continue to speculate, as that's all we have. > 1. Are you telling me that several line cards failed in multiple cities in > the same way at the same time? Don't think so unless the same software fault > was propagated to all of them. If the problem was that they needed to

RE: CenturyLink RCA?

Not buying this explanation for a number of reasons : 1. Are you telling me that several line cards failed in multiple cities in the same way at the same time? Don't think so unless the same software fault was propagated to all of them. If the problem was that they needed to be reset,

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

An other tool worth looking into is Traffic Sentinel from inMon. Karsten Am Mo., 31. Dez. 2018 um 04:31 Uhr schrieb Erik Sundberg : > > Hi Nanog…. > > > > We are looking at replacing our Netflow collector. I am wonder what other > service providers are using to collect netflow data off their

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

Hi, I am always peeking at this OSS project for new installations https://github.com/VerizonDigital/vflow - but did not try it out myself so far. Jörg On 31 Dec 2018, at 4:29, Erik Sundberg wrote: Hi Nanog We are looking at replacing our Netflow collector. I am wonder what other

RE: CenturyLink

There isn't a specific regulation on free-running GPS, just "due diligence". I work at a algorithmic program trading company (and have been for 20 years). We have a high ROI, the cost differential for the rubidium OC versus having to drop everything to conform to regulatory requirements due to

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

Hi, We use kentik and we're very happy. Works great, tons of new features coming along all the time. Going to start looking into ddos detection and mitigation soon. Would recommend. Kind regards, Eric Lindsjö On 12/31/2018 04:29 AM, Erik Sundberg wrote: Hi Nanog…. We are looking at

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

Don’t underestimate good old ELK https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/logstash/current/netflow-module.html + https://github.com/robcowart/elastiflow BR, ic > On 31 Dec 2018, at 04:29,

Re: CenturyLink

Hey Gary, On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 05:02, Gary E. Miller wrote: > The Rb frequency reference will be two or three orders of magnitude > more stable than an expensive ovenized crystal. Perhaps, but not supported by this: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/specs/gpsopt.htm For the tl;dr folk,