Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I am doing this right now. A starlink CPE is a fairly ordinary DIA link that exists in cgnat space from the perspective of whatever router you plug into it. The starlink indoor 'router' is optional. Whatever you plug into the high power PoE injector will be given a DHCP lease and a default route o

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Crist Clark
It’s not like Starlink is anything brand new. Iridium and Globalstar both do Internet from LEO. It wasn’t their primary service, voice was/is, but they could do it in a half-a** manner. Starlink isn’t going to become big in China without bowing to the GFW ‘cause how do you bill for it if you don’t

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Michael K. Spears
Yep this is the issue I'm running into.. Get Outlook for Android From: NANOG on behalf of Siyuan Miao Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:31:29 PM To: Mike Hammett Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation It seems that Geofee

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Siyuan Miao
It seems that Geofeed is no longer working starting last week. Can confirm this with other few server providers with VPN customers. The geolocation is now the user's REAL location like Asia or Mid-East while the IP itself is in the US. On Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 03:54 Mike Hammett wrote: > I've had

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Nathan Stratton
I mix Starlink and Comcast over two openvpn tunnels to my datacenter in Ashburn. ><> nathan stratton On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 3:38 PM Matt Erculiani wrote: > I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if anyone out there was trying to > mix their StarLink kit and existing broadband service to optimi

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I've had others at Google specifically say that portal should be used for that purpose, so maybe they need to make sure right and left hands know what the other is doing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ---

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Matt Erculiani
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if anyone out there was trying to mix their StarLink kit and existing broadband service to optimize performance and/or add redundancy though. The underlying technologies will change, but what people try to do with them will remain relatively unchanged. Back 2

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I am *NOT* complaining about my IPs currently being geo located wrong today/recently. I'm just trying to work with Google for our newer coming IPs in the future in the event that it does have problems. Until recently, all of our IPs were new from ARIN and that's not something that will be the cas

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Erculiani wrote: > I think the best way to think about what 10 years from now will look like > is to compare 10 years ago to the present: > https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-April/thread.html > Multi-homing your DSL connection? I can't wait to m

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Michael K. Spears
Yep, that's what I finally got. This is a pretty major issue for me and also shows a massive failing on Google.. I'm a VPS hosting provider, and despite no change in geolocation from any other vendor, no changes in the whois on either my ASN or my IP subnets, google is now redirecting to Google

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
https://isp.google.com I signed up for an account there and they said: "Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI or IX programs. The access to portal is granted on request only to our partners." Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Michael Thomas
On 3/29/21 11:36 AM, Matt Erculiani wrote: We might be talking a lot more about PRKI as it becomes compulsory, maybe 400G transit links will start being standard across the industry. If we're lucky (or unlucky, depending on how you look at it) maybe a whole new routing protocol will be int

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Matt Erculiani
I think the best way to think about what 10 years from now will look like is to compare 10 years ago to the present: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-April/thread.html - BGP issues/hijacks: for sure, despite everyone's best efforts - Jokes and fun stories: I sure hope so! - Current e

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with > geolocation on the ISP portal. > > unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and produce proper

Re: Google IP Geolocation

2021-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with geolocation on the ISP portal. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > As a note, on the ISP portal there'

Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

2021-03-29 Thread Javier J
I've had an IPV6 tunnel from Hurricane Electric for 10+ years I think. IPv4 will probably live as it does now in my network, mostly for management / interserver coms for legacy hardware/software that doesn't support ipv6. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:31 PM wrote: > Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but

Re: 10 years from now...

2021-03-29 Thread Alain Hebert
    Provided that vertical integration is not allowed, so that we can have actual competition instead of the false "capitalism" paradigm we're having in NA in the TelCo domain.     aka:         Pipes, (BW actual Media)         Services,             -and-         Contents.     stay separate

Infinera GenericTom Enable?

2021-03-29 Thread Nick Bogle
NANOG, I’ve got Infinera Cloud Xpress’s on two of our DCI’s that I’m trying to get 3rd party optics working in.. I notice there is a CLI structure of "feature GenericTom enable ", but the command doesn’t do anything without supplying a password, and I’ve tried a bunch of generic passwords and g