Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Josh Luthman wrote: Can you have an ethernet switch with dying gasp? > Our ONTs (Calix, PON) have it but I don't see how you'd do it with > ethernet. > At least via efm-oam you can have a dying gasp. You could probably add it to autonegotiation, by sending some

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-11-27 Thread owen--- via NANOG
> On Nov 27, 2023, at 11:45, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > > That’s exactly what I did. I was able to get a 3/4 conduit from my furnace > room/network closet to the exterior of my home where utilities enter. It took > some doing but I got it in, terminated in a NEMA box. Why would 1” be

Re: ACX7100 Woes - Operator Outreach -

2023-11-27 Thread Aaron1
ACX7100-48L …or… ACX7100-32C ? Aaron > On Nov 27, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Edwin Mallette wrote: > >  > In attempting to operationalize the ACX7100 I have run into quite a few > challenges with the platform once I stray outside of traditional routing and > switching. The EVPN instances seem to

ACX7100 Woes - Operator Outreach -

2023-11-27 Thread Edwin Mallette
In attempting to operationalize the ACX7100 I have run into quite a few challenges with the platform once I stray outside of traditional routing and switching. The EVPN instances seem to have quite a few caveats and things like CFM and RFC2544 traffic generation. Many of the show commands don't

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-11-27 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
That’s exactly what I did. I was able to get a 3/4 conduit from my furnace room/network closet to the exterior of my home where utilities enter. It took some doing but I got it in, terminated in a NEMA box. When we got fiber a few years ago, the installer told me it was the easiest install

Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you have an ethernet switch with dying gasp? Our ONTs (Calix, PON) have it but I don't see how you'd do it with ethernet. On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 11:25 AM Tom Samplonius wrote: > > Adva, RAD, and Telco Systems are all good NID options. > > You can go with just any switch, but “proper”

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-11-27 Thread Brandon Martin
On 11/27/2023 09:12, Josh Luthman wrote: If I was building a house I'd just get some 1" conduit from the outside to the inside.  Put it in a NEMA box.  That solves the problem forever. 1" is great if you can get it, and I'd try to argue for it. I'd settle for 3/4" Builders and resi

Re: Generally accepted BGP acceptance criteria?

2023-11-27 Thread Tom Samplonius
> On Nov 21, 2023, at 7:42 AM, Dale W. Carder wrote: > > Thus spake Tom Samplonius (t...@samplonius.org) on Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at > 07:02:52PM -0800: >>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 6:58 AM, Christopher Morrow >>> wrote: >>> IRR filters provide control over whom is provided reachability through >>>

Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Tom Samplonius
Adva, RAD, and Telco Systems are all good NID options. You can go with just any switch, but “proper” NIDs have dying gasp. If the NID is going on a customer premise, I consider dying gasp a must. The dying gasp allows your NOC to determine the difference between a network break and

Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Ryan Hamel
For those carriers that do not mind, they have already accepted the cost that comes to a truck roll and may pass the cost onto the customer depending on the result. Where as there are a number of carriers like Cogent, Colt, Comcast, Cox, Crown Castle, Lumen, Zayo, are capable of testing the

Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Around here, Spectrum uses an Adva for demarc and it can not do rfc2544 testing. They will unplug the Adva and plug in the techs' mobile unit (Viavi I think). VZW/Tmo/Sprint/etc don't seem to mind. On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 9:34 AM Ryan Hamel wrote: > The problem with using switches as a CPE

Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Ryan Hamel
The problem with using switches as a CPE device is the lack of RFC2544 (or equivalent) testing, and monitoring of the complete circuit with TWAMP. Both of which are used to ensure compliance with an SLA. Ryan Hamel From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: CPE/NID options

2023-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
When you say fiber, is it Ethernet? If you just want layer 2 and a media converter, Mikrotik is a super good answer. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:19 AM Christopher Hawker wrote: > Hi Ross, > > I've found these Mikrotik devices to be excellent and reliable: > > CRS310-8G+2S+IN: 8 x 2.5G copper

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
If I was building a house I'd just get some 1" conduit from the outside to the inside. Put it in a NEMA box. That solves the problem forever. As a fiber ISP, and assuming you're doing your own WiFi in the house, you can do conduit inside or we can just run the fiber. We don't want to run