AT&T's caliber could implement backbone redundancy and TE
with static routing. Any data you could share would be extremely
helpful.
Paul Wall
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Not passing any judgment on quality, Cogent is more towards the middle
of the road for price, these days, on larger commits.
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On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, manolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do have to say that the PSI net side of cogent is very good. We use
> them in Europe without many issues. I stay far away from the legacy
> cogent network in US.
You still haven't explained the failure modes you've experience
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Dan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about Alcatel's MPLS edge routers like the 7x50 products that
> came from Timetra...anyone have any experience with them? Are they a
> good product?
Garbage, the 7750/7450 are complete junk boxes. Here is why...
- For
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are there any good (published) BCPs for building out Municipal WiFi
> networks? Particularly in the security/authentication/scaling areas?
BCP #58,271,432--which basically states "Don't," comes highly recommended.
Instead
I'm hearing reports of a Hibernia outage on one of their fiber paths,
with downtime approaching a week.
Does anybody know what's going on there, and when they expect to have
service restored? Which provider(s) are impacted?
Was their diverse path impacted as well (as with prior Hibernia
outages)
Gadi,
Please try to keep the self-promotion to a minimum, and come back when
you have meaningful data to share with operators.
Examples would include a list of affected platforms and code
revisions, as well as preventative measures.
Thank you,
Paul
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Gadi Evron <[
What if some good comes from this "root kit"?
For instance, what if it lets us fix things like DOM on non-Cisco
XENPAKs and SFPs? Or lets us un-cripple our 6500 chassis to run the
code we want?
Of course, given the messenger, I'm sure it's just hype to help
bolster Gadi's security practice, and
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> while i can understand folk's wanting to signal upstream using
> communities, and i know it's all the rage. one issue needs to be
> raised.
BGP communities are all the rage? I don't think this is new concept or
fad. Signaling behaviors as well
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> - space in Torix
TorIX is not a place, its actually two switches that form an Internet
exchange. Perhaps you meant 151 Front Street? Do you have your own
suite? Whose suite are you in?
> I'm venting. I'm allowed to vent here. I think I'm qu
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Dave Temkin wrote:
> In most cases it already is. He completely fails to address the concept of
> Anycast DNS and assumes people are using statically mapped resolvers.
>
> He also assumes that DNS is some great expense and that by not allowing tons
> of caching we'
-founders were Jay Adelson and Al Avery.
It is sad to see that Mr. Norton, once a valued member of the
community, so blatantly favoring the green stuff over fact-checking
and journalistic integrity. One can only hope Om Malik will carry out
better due diligence in the future when hiring "industry experts" to
write for him.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
RB-
Where can we find data on your group's funding sources?
If we're to continue this discussion, we need to establish bias and
motive, which you've not covered on your own accord.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On 11/25/09, Richard Bennett wrote:
> Now you've descended
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Dan White wrote:
> All valid points. Deploying a strand to each customer from the CO/Cabinet
> is a good way to future proof your plant.
I would argue that every customer is entitled to duplex fiber.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
a maintenance, that's an outage.
I hope everybody impacted on this list is claiming SLA.
Drive Slow, much like the M40,
Paul Wall
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Nathan Ward wrote:
> On 17/02/2010, at 1:28 AM, Michael McGovern wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if AT&T has public DNS resolvers? We are an AT&T customer
>> and they informed us that we could not use their DNS servers unless we paid
>> for it. That was several yea
o router or ASA.
A current enterprise best-practice is to put your Exchange web server
in the DMZ, sacrificing some security for not having to deal with the
annoyance of supporting client-side tunneling.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
emium for v6
connectivity in Asia.
Dorian can speak better to their rationale, though I can't see it
helping foster adoption in this economy.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's the people who pop up and smear Gadi that I really wonder
> about. There seems to be no good reason for this, unless possibly
> they are blackhats of some sort. I remember a few years ago
> when William Leibzon posted about his wo
5mb limit ingressing/traversing their backbone?
Or 5mb limit to their router's control plane?
Important to differentiate between the two. I'd call the former
totally unacceptable, and actionable per SLA 'till resolved (besides,
whoever got taken down by a multi-gigabit PING FLOOD?); the latter i
I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger
is a good plan.
Following the advice of our host, David Diaz (Telx), care should be
exercised to make sure your laptop bag does not have the text "LAPTOP"
printed on it, as that would make it a target for thieves.
Additionally,
times and stop catering
only to the enterprise T1's.
Paul Wall
Drive slow...like Brucie.
Manolo,
As the peeringdb entry alludes to, a good contact might be Comcast sales:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Comcast peering policy is very restrictive, and only the largest
access providers qualify. Additionally, they are not peering at any
public fabrics at this time.
Paul Wall
Mehmet,
Qwest is a rather large entity, so it would help to provide specifics
about the nature of your problem and what department(s) you're looking
for specifically.
If this is the office DSL you've been trying to cancel on account of
them not offering IPv6, I'm not sure the NANOG list is the be
Gadi,
I tried to find even the smallest token of operational relevance on
your postings on this thread, and I'm coming up short.
Could you please do us a favor and stop posting until such a time when
you're able to comply with the list's AUP?
Paul (not a member of MLC, my opinions only)
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Drew Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Howdy for reasons it might be inappropriate to discuss on this list
> we've decided that we're going to replace our Avaya/RouteScience box and
> we're looking for recommendations on different solutions for 'BGP manage
I think that's precisely the problem, that the issue could not have
been handled "though other methods".
I agree NANOG is not a replacement for NOCs, but what about when the
NOCs are utterly useless and the issue is global in scope?
Given the parties involved, I'd like to think that Logan tried t
I'd like to rip on Mzima as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure how
they could "fix" this routing loop, shy of some creative ACLs.
You should try contacting Ubiquity, as this traceroute looks like an
issue on their (Mzima's customer's) side.
Paul Wall
On Fri, Ju
h a weight of 254.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07/18/2008 06:57 PM AST
> To: "William Pitcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop
>
Microsoft filters traceroute, etc to various web properties at their border.
Paul Wall
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone having problems with MSN? Depending on which AS I use the traceroute
> dies in different places, but most of the
Cogent does not support IRR. Since you're using IRR yourself, Richard
Steenbergen's IRRPT (irrpt.sf.net) has a script called 'irrpt_nag'
which is good for sending automated requests for prefix-list updates
with providers that continue to process them manually.
You can (and should) ask that Cogent
Simon,
Sorry to steer this in a different direction, but could you please
tell us a bit about the new MLC's plans for suspending habitual
off-topic posters in violation of the "three strikes" rule, such as
Gadi Evron and Larry Sheldon?
Paul
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Simon Lyall <[EMAIL PR
their customers with a SLA?
How many peering contracts are worth the paper they're printed on, and
have teeth when subjected to attorney review, and none of the usual
30-90 day unilateral severability nonsense?
Therein lies your problem.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
Gadi,
Please take a few moments to reflect on:
http://www.nanog.org/endsystem.html
I'd appreciate it if you'd try and keep future off-topic postings like
this to a minimum, as it makes the list difficult to wade through to
get to what matters.
Regards,
Paul (not currently MLC, though I promise
ny do.
Drive Slow,
PAUL WALL
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Warning: This may actually be operational too.
>
> Given Cogent (and others) recent pursuit of sub $4/mb/s transit... and the
> relatively flat cost of a "paid" peering
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tons of others exist, in big and little markets. There's one in 365 Main
> SF, there's KleyReX in the same building as DE-CIX, Big APE in 111 8th, NYCx
> there too, ChicagoIX just opened, etc., etc.
Excellent point o
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a more appropriate place for interested parties to discuss the
> possible creation of such a beast in the WDC area? I know we have about a
> lot of optical capacity we could help contribute to a stake in the ground
>
Jon,
I think we can safely conclude from the information provided that
you're looking at some sort of a misconfigured traffic mirroring or
[un]lawful intercept.
Sadly, as neither Sprint nor your loop provider will fess up, I don't
think you're going to get much further on here.
Probably best to
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Matlock, Kenneth L
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry for the off-topic post.
Don't be; it was acutely on-topic.
> Does anyone here have real-world experience with Force 10 gear
> (Specifically their E-Series and C-Series)? They came and did their
> whole dog and
, Supervisor 720-3BXL, 6700 blades with CFC... which I consider a
fair comparison.
>> As a box designed with the enterprise datacenter in mind, the E-series
>> looks to be missing several key service provider features, including
>> MPLS and advanced control plane filtering/policing.
>
>
> Ah, because Cisco does either of these in hardware?
Yes, they do, on the s720-3B and better.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
lpdesk too.
I'm unaware of any hardware-forwarding-based platforms which can't do this.
Though if I find any, I'll be sure to steer clear!
Paul Wall
/gallery_dnc_tech?slide=7&slideView=4
Is anyone still running a cabling horror show photo rogue's gallery?
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
not killing yourself out in Denver; event
networking can be a bear.
> http://bill.herrin.us/cables-sm.jpg
Who knew that the Rainbow Coalition's day job was in IT at the DNC?
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Steve Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are a few benefits to doing it this way (IMHO), but I see obvious
> benefits of using a single loopback interface and single IP for ALL of these
> multihop peers. Before I state good/bad, or get any wrong idea in my
Confirmed outage on their side. Should be resolved now.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Scott Berkman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've also been seeing some "weird" (hard to track down) issues all day
> with Level 3 in both Tampa and Atlan
ck of public face or
consistent enforcement action of the current MLC.)
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulwall
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My profile and resume: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gadievron
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Dan Maho
table, or for their providers to have
lax or non-existent filters, but that's neither here nor there. :)
I'm not sure what "valley-free" means in this context. You might want
to try the Rosetta Stone patches and make sure your copy is up to
date.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
htt
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Paul Wall wrote:
>>
>> Routing n*GE at line rate isn't difficult these days, even with all
>> 64-byte packets and other "DoS" conditions.
>>
>>
ed time after time here that anti-spoof/bogon filtering
isn't even a factor in most large-scale attacks on the public Internet
these days. Think massively sized, well connected, botnets. See also
CP attacks (which, again, the F10 can't even help you with).
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
ou
hook a smartbits/ixia up to it" is mine. What's yours?
Mind you, this is probably one of the more useless metrics for vendor
selection these days, and nobody has a major problem with it.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
(just using them as an example, they also might not :).
Smaller hosting or SP shop represented on the list, "not so much".
And 60 points off Cisco is possible, even for small shops with some
negotiating ability.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
"I am an asshole" club?
uRPF is important. But all the uRPF in the world won't protect you
against a little tcp/{22,23,179} SYN aimed at your Force 10 box.
Ya know what I mean?
Paul Wall
orementioned Linksys solution provides more than enough capacity.
If you could provide me login/enable access to a current E-series box
with no firewalls sitting in front, I can most likely replicate.
(Off-list, in the interest of keeping things on-topic, with a
follow-up summary sent on-...)
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
fuse to provide any
hard numbers, claiming it's "not your job". Where I come from, people
like that are referred to as sore losers. :)
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
tructions to our build guys to stop wasting our time with crummy
NICs with no support, and insisted that they pay the small amount of
extra money it takes to go with Intel. If you're looking for a funny
"prank" to play on your tech staff, speccing a batch of these, sitting
back, and watch
ments, *privately*, with evidence of active
abuse on Atrivo's part.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS27595&v=4&view=2.0#AS27595
>
>Gadi.
>
>
.0/24
195.95.218.0/23
216.255.176.0/20
Thank you, and Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:29 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like they found a new willing partner.
>
> AS32335 PACIFICINTERNETEXCHANGE-NET - Pacific Internet Exchange LLC.
>
> http://cidr-report.org/cg
ting my 3 locations in a loop like fashion.
>
>
> Are there any other options I should consider?
None come to mind.
> Are my descriptions of the today's possible solutions inaccurate?
More or less, though it would help if you'd explain more what you're
trying to get out of the "QOS".
Best Of Luck, and Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
T (AS 2914).
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
here.
(Unfortuantely, I understand sales and contractual pushback can
sometimes put a damper on these things.)
Gas is still expensive, so Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
Emil,
If you've actually shut off the RBN, you should have no problem
finding some new transit to turn up, right?
We're in a buyer's market, and there are dozens of vendors on-net at
200 Paul who'd love a piece of your business.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Sun, Sep 21, 2
Hold the rejoicing, Atrivo is back, this time on UnitedLayer.
I'd contact them, only they seem to change CTOs every month or two,
does anybody know who's currently in charge?
Thank you, and Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
needs to be
permanently disconnected from the Internet at all costs.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
too", not "they
left us after a day of being down due to outages caused by our hosting
of an even bigger criminal".
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
IIJ had some empty space when I was there the other day, you should
ask them for a feed and some Us. :)
Seriously though, is the requirement to be physically plugged into the
fabric an important one? Might some ebgp multihop feeds to a remote
route collector suffice?
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On
I've seen these a few times, usually traced back to LAG issues on
their Force10s (ebr in traceroute).
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On 10/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It sounds like an issue that we've seen twice with them. They'll be
> routing an en
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Brandon Galbraith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seeing as Cogent is going to try tooth and nail to keep their new found Tier
> 1 status (and not pay anyone for transit), I would think this would bode
> worse for Sprint, since most of their transit customers could migr
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Neither Sprint nor Cogent have transit
> Both Sprint & Cogent are transit-free networks. (Notice how I carefully
> avoided saying "tier one"?)
How do you explain Cogent's arrangement with NTT (AS 2914)? If it's
no
Whoa, excessive use of "!"...this isn't IOS ICMP output.
For those of you who want to have a chuckle, grep the word "exit" on
any of these fine 7750/7450 router configurations. Seeing a router
configuration that contains 10,000+ instances of the word "exit" makes
me recall the fine book FINAL EXIT
I'm looking for feedback from users of the Hirschmann (Belden)
ethernet switches in a service provider environment. Private or
public appreciated.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
relates to impact today. Also, I'd agree
announcing other peoples' ASNs, without their permission, is in bad
form. It's okay he's doing it to you, but I bet Randy would be a lot
less smiley if you were to announce random paths with 3130.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
IP space and they don't really care as I am not a direct
> customer of theirs.
1-877-4-LEVEL3.
The e-mail box isn't regularly monitored or responded to.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
etitors to be extra certain they could handle the traffic
spike.
With so many involved, and in the interests of full disclosure, do you
or Comcast have any fiscal interest in BitGravity's streaming of this
event? ;)
Drive Slow
Paul Wall
couple of lab GRE tunnels.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
over
ARIN's eyes doesn't mean Verizon is too. :)
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
m
> www.choopa.com / 1.866.2.CHOOPA
A more sensible approach is to not run Enterprise code if you only
need to route IP.
Paul Wall
tplace with
every passing day... :)
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Gadi Evron wrote:
> What was that story with an African routes some years back, any memories
> anyone? I am looking for a reference.
146.20.0.0/16?
Paul
I heard about some recent lay-offs and customer losses at UnitedLayer
and I was wondering if they're still solvent?
Paul
Patrick Gilmore wrote [context inserted]:
> Perhaps using the RFC required address [...@akamai] would be more
productive than e-mailing 10k strangers?
Normally I see emails like this and, if it's Not In My Back Yard, and the
Internet is not going nutz, the delete key explains how worried i am.
Ba
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Paul Wall wrote:
> I would end the email there, but it really gets me how someone that is
> in-house doesn't realize that n...@akamai is a black hole.
I am pleased hear that Akamai has remedied this situation, most likely
by having Mr. Gilmore at
ssion would be off-topic, so I'll bow out now. Drive Slow.
Paul Wall
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Gadi Evron wrote:
> In this email message I'd like to discuss two subjects:
That makes one of us,
> b. Phishing in different languages against ISPs as soon as Google adds a
> new translation module.
>
> In the past few weeks there has been an increasing number
ufficient
information for the proper troubleshooting to take place.
Thank you.
Paul Wall
(Drive Slow)
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> Quite frankly, I think the failure modes have been grossly overblown.
> The number of incidents of shared network badness that have caused
> problems are actually few and far between. I can't attribute any
> down-time to shared-network badne
y
behind Equinix's big red silo.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
e not
advertising inconsistently), but so are Level3 and Global Crossing.
I hear they've got some pretty serious peering problems in the US.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
r
neutral colo facilities where all the peering/transit between major networks
happens, and pay them money to put up a fake wall that you can colo your
optical taps behind?
Drive Slow, and remember, don't open any doors that say "This Is Not An Exit",
Paul Wall
enda at as specific time? :)
>
> sorry my attempt at dealing with todd's screw-up with humor evoked such
> a defensive reaction. apology accepted.
Randy, acting like a petulant child in public is unbecoming. Take it off list.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
FYI
There is a fire at 151 Front Street in Toronto, which is home to TorIX
as well as a variety of other network providers. Rumor is the fire may
have ORIGINated in the Peer1 suite.
Seems a bad weekend for fires given what happened in Seattle as well.
Drive Slow
romotion, which makes
me wonder how they're doing on their Level3 and Global Crossing
bandwidth commits and whether or not they're solvent.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
a problem if people mail you off-list with any specific
problems they've encountered there?
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
is a good resource, or more generally,
Internet Routing Architectures by Sam Halabi.
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:22 AM Alexandre Petrescu <
alexandre.petre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mr. Morrow - where are you situated approximately?
>
>
He's a network operator. From North America, on the North American Network
Operators mailing list. Something you are not, so please stop spouting y
ere peering doesn't happen.
going to nanog and yelling about peering by saying that you're a
victim isn't a mutual benefit last i checked. their lack of peering
doesn't demand another moment of our attention. choose wisely.
Drive slow,
Paul WALL
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> the O in nanog is operator, not sponsor, panderer, suck up, ...
Ogre?
Drive slow,
Paul
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-now-considered-business-etiquette-only-to-include-an-email-signature-in-the-first-email-to-someone-and-not-in-subsequent-replies-to-the-same-message
https://www.lifewire.com/email-signature-location-1173260
https://www.hanselman.com/blog/EmailSignatureEtiquetteTooMuchF
It's not as if Brett is doing the public a service. There is Charter
Cable and CenturyLink DSL available in Laramie. He's just a wireless
provider with some crappy infrastructure that's bitter that he can't
"borrow" bandwidth from the University of Wyoming anymore, resulting
in a loss of his 100% m
Provided without comment:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/comcast-astroturfing-net-neutrality
Drive Slow,
Paul Wall
right now, right?
Drive Slow,
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