) We got way off track here I'll end this thread
now.
Enjoy !
Regards
BF
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Alex Pilosov
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:28 PM
To: Patrick Giagnocavo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 24x7 Su
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
> Vegetable oil can degrade much faster than diesel.
>
> What you really want is a large pond at the top of a hill, and another
> large pond at the bottom of the same hill.
>
> When utility prices are low, pump the water to the upper pond. When
>
On Jun 14, 2007, at 10:11 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
And what about all those diesel generators? How many of them are
capable
of running on vegetable oil rather than diesel oil? I regularly walk
past a building in London that reeks because of the diesel fuel
tanks i
> There's no correlation between certification and capability, in my
> experience.
my experience differs radically. i only know one old dog senior routing
engineer on the net who has a vendor diploma [0]. so i would say p ~
0.99 for the negative hypothesis.
randy
--
[0] - he had to go out an
> But back to chips and heat generation. Has anyone
> instrumented some of these servers (and their software) to
> figure out how much heat various functions generate?
It seems that someone has done just that. A list member sent me a
private reply pointing me to http://www.linuxpowertop.org/
I
On 2007/06/14 15:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I suspect that you would need to make special modifications to the
> hardware of a server to install temperature and current measuring
> devices in key locations
The vast majority of modern machines have working temperature sensors;
some just one or
People are asking me to port a summary back to the list, but as I'm
still getting replies coming in I'm going to leave this until tomorrow.
S
Sam Stickland wrote:
All,
Thanks for the replies that have started rolling in. They've made me
realise I should have added an additional question f
At 10:33 AM 6/14/2007, you wrote:
Didn't we discuss the need for standard water connectors not so long
ago? Water over Ethernet?
The new Liebert GX high density cooling gear is pretty slick. It uses
a liquid which turns to a gas if the line is breached. It provides
the advantages of liquid c
Didn't we discuss the need for standard water connectors not so long
ago? Water over Ethernet?
> A related area that might well be worth revisiting is
> cooling. IIRC, it was someone from Google, at the Intel
> developer conference, who said that their power and HVAC
> costs were rapidly approaching the cost of their servers. He
> laid down a challenge for chipmakers to be more energy-e
4x7 Support Strategies
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>
> This topic interests me very much, and I had a BOF about staff development
> at the Montreal meeting in 1999. I remember some of the details, and,
while
> I am no longer generally doing course development, I h
Daniel J McDonald wrote:
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 12:57 +0100, Leigh Porter wrote:
Even my recent experience says no here. I had a CCIE (written..!) in for
an interview and, well, I am not sure how he managed to get CCIE written
but he sure as hell didn't know much.
There is no such thi
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 12:57 +0100, Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> Even my recent experience says no here. I had a CCIE (written..!) in for
> an interview and, well, I am not sure how he managed to get CCIE written
> but he sure as hell didn't know much.
There is no such thing as a "CCIE (written)".
I find that within 15 mins of any interview I have accurately judged the
technical competence of most candidates...
Sam Stickland wrote:
Joe Abley wrote:
On 14-Jun-2007, at 02:32, Sam Stickland wrote:
Does anyone have any CCIE (or equivalent technical ability) staff on
a 24x7 shift? Wh
Even my recent experience says no here. I had a CCIE (written..!) in for
an interview and, well, I am not sure how he managed to get CCIE written
but he sure as hell didn't know much.
There are some useful qualifications for ISP potential employees that
the LINX provide in conjunction with
Joe Abley wrote:
On 14-Jun-2007, at 02:32, Sam Stickland wrote:
Does anyone have any CCIE (or equivalent technical ability) staff on
a 24x7 shift? What about CCIE level staff on an on-call rota with a
garanteed response time? How about CCNP?
Does anybody actually put any stock in the prese
I doubt it maybe training companies!
A number of vendors have grades to meet. So X number of certified experts
mean better deals from said vendor.
Regards,
Neil.
> Does anybody actually put any stock in the presence or absence of
> vendor certifications on a resume when judging the capabiliti
On 14-Jun-2007, at 02:32, Sam Stickland wrote:
Does anyone have any CCIE (or equivalent technical ability) staff
on a 24x7 shift? What about CCIE level staff on an on-call rota
with a garanteed response time? How about CCNP?
Does anybody actually put any stock in the presence or absence o
Stickland
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:33 AM
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: 24x7 Support Strategies
All,
Thanks for the replies that have started rolling in. They've made me
realise I should have added an additional question for clarity.
Does anyone have any CCIE (or equivalent technical ab
All,
Thanks for the replies that have started rolling in. They've made me
realise I should have added an additional question for clarity.
Does anyone have any CCIE (or equivalent technical ability) staff on a
24x7 shift? What about CCIE level staff on an on-call rota with a
garanteed respon
Hi,
I'm wondering how different organisations structure their 24x7 network
operations? We are undergoing some restructuring here and it would be
interesting for us to know how other large enterprises and service
providers arrange this. We are particulary interested in service
providers. (Cur
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