Apply Today for the ARIN 54 Fellowship Program

2024-07-16 Thread John Sweeting
Hello NANOG, Please see the announcement below reference ARIN’s Fellowship Program. Thanks, John S. From: ARIN-announce on behalf of ARIN Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:43 AM To: arin-annou...@arin.net Subject: [arin-announce] Apply Today for the ARIN 54

Re: IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-12 Thread Innocent Obi
ped: > > $ date > Thu Jul 11 03:50:22 UTC 2024 > > $ whois -h rr.ntt.net 199.52.73.0/24 > route: 199.52.73.0/24 > origin: AS132055 > descr: EY India > admin-c: IAM12-ARIN > tech-c: DNSAD85-ARIN > tech-c: IAM12-ARIN >

Re: IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-10 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
055 descr: EY India admin-c: IAM12-ARIN tech-c: DNSAD85-ARIN tech-c: IAM12-ARIN mnt-by: MNT-EYL-Z created:2022-10-19T08:37:50Z last-modified: 2023-11-27T15:10:44Z source: ARIN rpki-ov-state: valid route: 199.52.73.0/24 descr:

Re: IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-10 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 09:37:22PM -0400, Aliaksei Sheshka wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 9:26 PM Job Snijders via NANOG > wrote: > > > Indeed, it appears both NTT’s and RADB’s mirror instances are > > desynchronized in relationship to ARIN’s IRR. Both NTT and RADB > > should do a database

Re: IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-10 Thread Aliaksei Sheshka
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 9:26 PM Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: > > > Aliaksei, > > Indeed, it appears both NTT’s and RADB’s mirror instances are > desynchronized in relationship to ARIN’s IRR. Both NTT and RADB should do a > database reload to rectify the issue. > > Desynchronisation can happen

Re: IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-10 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
Rubens, ARIN-NONAUTH was deprecated two years ago: https://www.arin.net/vault/announcements/20220404-irr/ Aliaksei, Indeed, it appears both NTT’s and RADB’s mirror instances are desynchronized in relationship to ARIN’s IRR. Both NTT and RADB should do a database reload to rectify the issue

Re: IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-10 Thread Rubens Kuhl
If you look at TC, you will see that this object is part of ARIN-NONAUTH: https://bgp.net.br/whois.html?q=199.52.73.0%2F24 route: 199.52.72.0/22 descr: Ernst & Young, Gurgaon Cyberpark, India origin: AS132055 mnt-by: MNT-EYL changed:zanub-h.kala

IRR mirrors de-sync from ARIN or irrd4 bug or ARIN streaming is broken?

2024-07-10 Thread Aliaksei Sheshka
Hi folks! I noticed something unusual today, and perhaps some of you know the answer. Consider ARIN rr: $ whois -h rr.arin.net 199.52.73.0/24 route: 199.52.73.0/24 origin: AS132055 descr: EY India admin-c:IAM12-ARIN tech-c: DNSAD85-ARIN tech-c

Would you make a good ARIN Trustee? (Fwd: [arin-announce] Call for Nominations Extended for ARIN Board of Trustees)

2024-06-24 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - Per request of the 2024 Nomination Committee, we have extended the call for nominations for those interested in serving on the ARIN Board of Trustees – see the attached announcement below. If you are interested in serving, or know someone that might be, please take a moment

In Remembrance: ARIN Amassador Stacy Taylor (Hughes)

2024-05-27 Thread Mel Beckman
For those who haven't seen this yet, I'm passing it along from ARIN announcements. Stacy passed away suddenly in the hospital last week. I first met Stacy when she worked as "IP Godess" at TW Telecom, by which time she was already a force of nature within ARIN, and at many RIR

TIMELY - FINAL REMINDER - ARIN Email Template Retirement Scheduled for 3 June 2024

2024-05-13 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - If you are still emailing SWIP requests to ARIN for reporting reallocations and reassignments, please contact the ARIN Helpdesk ASAP to move a more appropriate/secure technology. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers Begin forwarded

Apply Now for an ARIN Community Grant

2024-05-09 Thread John Sweeting
Hi NANOG’ers, ARIN has announced the opening of applying for an ARIN grant. See below announcement. Do you have a project that needs funding, is noncommercial in nature, and benefits the Internet community within the ARIN service region? Apply now for a 2024 ARIN Community Grant. The ARIN

Re: AT ARIN Contact

2024-03-26 Thread John Sweeting
Hi John, If you CC: hostmas...@arin.net<mailto:hostmas...@arin.net> on the email to ipadmin-b...@att.com<mailto:ipadmin-b...@att.com>, ARIN will reach out to them and if the entries are not removed in 7 days ARIN will remove them for you. Thanks, John S. ARIN CCO From: NANO

AT ARIN Contact

2024-03-26 Thread John Conley via NANOG
I have a few old netblocks that were allocated to my company back in the early 2010s that our security vendor is requiring us to either secure or remove from being registered to us. I've been unable to reach anyone at ipadmin-b...@att.com, and the number listed isn't connected anymore. does

Re: Ongoing ARIN consultation on Resource Public Key Infrastructure/BGP intelligence

2024-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
john: > I’d tend to agree with you, but ARIN already once attempted to rollout > such functionality – alas, with overly ambitious scope that not only > provided increased visibility after potentially affected routes but > functionality that also created default linkage to matching I

Re: Ongoing ARIN consultation on Resource Public Key Infrastructure/BGP intelligence

2024-02-14 Thread John Curran
to agree with you, but ARIN already once attempted to rollout such functionality – alas, with overly ambitious scope that not only provided increased visibility after potentially affected routes but functionality that also created default linkage to matching IRR objects – and thus created a real

Re: Ongoing ARIN consultation on Resource Public Key Infrastructure/BGP intelligence

2024-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
john, > Read the full text of the consultation at: > https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/consultations/2024/2024-1/ please explain the need for bureaucrazy to do what RPKI CAs have been doing since dirt was invented. randy

Ongoing ARIN consultation on Resource Public Key Infrastructure/BGP intelligence

2024-02-14 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - ARIN would like to remind the community about the ongoing consultation on Resource Public Key Infrastructure/BGP intelligence. This consultation is slated to close on Thursday, 29 February. Please be sure to submit your comments to the arin-consult mailing list before then. Read

Know of any organization that uses SWIP email templates? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Email Template Retirement Scheduled for 3 June 2024)

2024-01-27 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - Please note the following announcement from ARIN regarding retirement of email-based SWIP updates to the ARIN registry. While we are presently providing transition assistance to several organizations identified by their use of this functionality in the recent past, it is possible

Fellowships for ARIN 53

2024-01-06 Thread John Sweeting
NANOGers – For those folks (e.g., yourself, friends, coworkers, ...) who are looking for an in-depth mentored introduction to ARIN, please consider applying to participate in the ARIN 53 Fellowship Program! Details attached below, and more online at https://www.arin.net/fellowships. Thanks

Re: ARIN election statistics, eligible-to-vote ASNs/Org IDs vs. number of votes cast

2023-10-20 Thread Eric Kuhnke
. I've been going through the periodic ARIN election related emails and expect to put some more time into it this weekend. On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 9:08 PM John Curran wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2023, at 5:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Does anyone have general statistics on: > > a)

Re: ARIN election statistics, eligible-to-vote ASNs/Org IDs vs. number of votes cast

2023-10-19 Thread John Curran
On Oct 19, 2023, at 5:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Does anyone have general statistics on: a) Number of eligible voting org IDs b) Percentage of eligible voting org IDs which actually cast ballots in previous ARIN elections That’s an interesting question to ask over here on nanog’s mailing

ARIN election statistics, eligible-to-vote ASNs/Org IDs vs. number of votes cast

2023-10-19 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Does anyone have general statistics on: a) Number of eligible voting org IDs b) Percentage of eligible voting org IDs which actually cast ballots in previous ARIN elections

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-15 Thread Tim Burke
I’d vote for whoever promises to perma ban Cogent and all of these other clowns from access WHOIS data. Someone get on that! > On Oct 13, 2023, at 19:33, Randy Bush wrote: > > i received an arin board electioneering "vote for me" today. i guess > now i h

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-13 Thread Randy Bush
i received an arin board electioneering "vote for me" today. i guess now i have to go vote against then. randy

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-13 Thread Eric Kuhnke
To clarify, the original post from myself is more ARIN related and scraping of ARIN data. The incoming cold contacts from the ipv4-broker-spammer came to ARIN POCs for an ASN with presence only in the USA. On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 8:23 AM t...@pelican.org wrote: > On Friday, 13 October, 2

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-13 Thread t...@pelican.org
n use by the organisation and for the purpose for which they were issued. I think the original complaint was that RIPE don't act (or less so than ARIN) to block or otherwise deal with people who are mining the DB for contacts, despite that being an incentive to put "real" data in the

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-13 Thread Laura Smith via NANOG
--- Original Message --- On Thursday, October 12th, 2023 at 18:59, Niels Bakker wrote: > RIPE have a policy that states Which is exactly what I said Neils. When I asked about it, they pointed me at a policy. Well hell, theoretically my company has a policy that describes

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-13 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Oct 12, 2023, at 10:59, Niels Bakker wrote: > > * Laura Smith [Thu 12 Oct 2023, 19:01 CEST]: >> I mean, most (all ?) of the registries still can't be bothered to validate >> the information the resource holders post to the database. Last time I >> asked, e.g. RIPE about it, they

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Niels Bakker
* Laura Smith [Thu 12 Oct 2023, 19:01 CEST]: I mean, most (all ?) of the registries still can't be bothered to validate the information the resource holders post to the database.  Last time I asked, e.g. RIPE about it, they basically said "not my problem guv" , pointed me to some policy

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
RIPE != ARIN RIPE has a very lessez faire attitude towards network abuse and always has. It’s rather unfortunate. ARIN, OTOH, has a clear understanding of their mandate, and they won’t pursue abuse outside of that mandate (e.g. general SPAM complaints, DDOS, etc.), but they will pursue

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Andrew Latham
As mentioned weekly email complia...@arin.net with details. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:58 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Is anyone else receiving spam from this organization? Based on the > contents of the cold solicitations they are sending us, and the addresses > being sent to, they have scr

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Mel Beckman
Laura, just a couple of weeks ago, I reported and ARIN abuse here on NANOG, and ARIN responded immediately, contacting the offender and getting them to stop. The system works, and ARIN has the power to deter repeat offenders. -mel > On Oct 12, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Laura Smith via NANOG wr

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Laura Smith via NANOG
t; Do we know if the organizations with key Internet resources (ARIN, RIPE, > PeeringDB, etc.) have any honeypots in their arsenal? Obviously, publicly > knowing about it kind of defeats the purpose of it, but that might be a way > to help be proactive - make fake entries with unique contact informa

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Tom Beecher
Sure. I have no issues ARIN handling what is reported to them. That only works if victims report spam and compare notes. > I don't agree with the 'compare notes' part. That's ARIN's job in the processing of reports. On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:01 PM Mel Beckman wrote: > Tom, > >

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Do we know if the organizations with key Internet resources (ARIN, RIPE, PeeringDB, etc.) have any honeypots in their arsenal? Obviously, publicly knowing about it kind of defeats the purpose of it, but that might be a way to help be proactive - make fake entries with unique contact information

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Mel Beckman
Tom, When an ARIN member violates their agreement and spams from ARIN’s databases, it’s not just an “Internet is fertile ground” deal. It’s a betrayal of a legal trust, one that demands accountability. I’m quite happy that ARIN promptly responds to these abuses, and gets results. That only

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread Tom Beecher
t; > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:52 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > >> Is anyone else receiving spam from this organization? Based on the >> contents of the cold solicitations they are sending us, and the addresses >> being sent to, they have scraped ARIN WHOIS data for noc a

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-12 Thread John Stitt
-- Accuris Technologies Ltd. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:52 PM Eric Kuhnke mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from this organization? Based on the contents of the cold solicitations they are sending us, and the addresses being sent to, they have scraped ARIN WHOI

Re: ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-11 Thread Peter Potvin via NANOG
-- *Accuris Technologies Ltd.* On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:52 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Is anyone else receiving spam from this organization? Based on the > contents of the cold solicitations they are sending us, and the addresses > being sent to, they have scr

ARIN whois contact abuse from ipv4depot aka Silicon Desert International Inc

2023-10-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Is anyone else receiving spam from this organization? Based on the contents of the cold solicitations they are sending us, and the addresses being sent to, they have scraped ARIN WHOIS data for noc and abuse POC contact info and recent ipv4 block transfers. It's trivially easy to block

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-04 Thread Matthew Petach
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 7:27 PM Collider wrote: > Congrats! LIOAWKI is a hapax legomenon in DuckDuckGo's search results! > Could you please tell me & the list what it means? > Large Internet Outages Are What Kills Income! It's a phrase that is uttered by members of the finance organization

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-04 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ng them what they needed. The person then replied with a blatant spam, > advertising Cogent IP services, in violation of the U.S. CAN-SPAM Act’s > prohibition against deceptive UCE. > > I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN > technical POC is t

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-04 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
services, in violation of the U.S. CAN-SPAM Act’s >>> prohibition against deceptive UCE. >>> >>> I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN >>> technical POC is the only place where my name and the ASN are connected. I >>&g

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-04 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
be depeer them? > > I know this sound extreme, but.. everything else seems to fail.. > > > -- Original message -- > > From: Christopher Morrow > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN >reco

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-04 Thread borg
? Maybe depeer them? I know this sound extreme, but.. everything else seems to fail.. -- Original message -- From: Christopher Morrow To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 15:48:11 -0400 i

Re: ARIN Election

2023-10-03 Thread John Curran
Hello Nich! On Oct 3, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Nicholas Warren wrote: Does anyone know how many people will be elected from each category? This year’s ARIN election will fill four (4) seats on the ARIN Board of Trustees and seven (7) seats on the ARIN Advisory Council. I don’t regularly keep up

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Collider
Heh. (: Le 4 octobre 2023 01:23:13 UTC, Owen DeLong via NANOG a écrit  : >I was one of the main people behind their suspension from ARIN whois for 6 >months. > >They have not spammed me since. > >They’re probably afraid of another cake. > >Owen > > >> On Oct

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread John Curran
On Oct 3, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: I believe they got the contact information from ARIN I'd suggest everyone use an alias unique to ARIN for your POC and/or public email. Makes it super simple to verify where it was sourced from

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread John Curran
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: >> I believe they got the contact information from ARIN > > I'd suggest everyone use an alias unique to ARIN for your POC and/or public > email. Makes it super simple to ver

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
I was one of the main people behind their suspension from ARIN whois for 6 months. They have not spammed me since. They’re probably afraid of another cake. Owen > On Oct 3, 2023, at 18:18, Mike Lyon wrote: > > Give it time :) > > -Mike > >> On Oct 3, 2023, at 18:0

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Mike Lyon
wrote: >> >>> On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: >>> I believe they got the contact information from ARIN >> >> I'd suggest everyone use an alias unique to ARIN for your POC and/or public >> email. Makes it super simple to verify where it wa

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
But I seem to have finally gotten Cogent trained not to spam this one, so I think I’ll leave it as is. YMMV Owen > On Oct 3, 2023, at 08:52, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: >> I believe they got the contact information from ARIN > > I'd

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread niels=nanog
* morrowc.li...@gmail.com (Christopher Morrow) [Tue 03 Oct 2023, 21:50 CEST]: I'm sure telling dave shaeffer: "Hey, your sales droids are being rude" is going to end as well as sending him ED pill emails. Such outreach to technical contacts is counterproductive anyway. Which is more likely,

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Daniel Corbe
On 10/3/2023 3:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: those are a bit of a false equivalence... but... ok. I think: "Oh look, more spam, delete" is basically how this sort of problem (email from randos trying to sell me ED pills or 10Gs) should be treated. I don't know that it's helpful to keep

ARIN Election

2023-10-03 Thread Nicholas Warren
Does anyone know how many people will be elected from each category? I don't regularly keep up with everyone's business. So, are any of candidates overachievers or, well, underachievers? Nich Warren

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 12:54 PM wrote: > > * morrowc.li...@gmail.com (Christopher Morrow) [Tue 03 Oct 2023, 18:29 CEST]: > >this sort of thing (provider X scrapes Y and mails Z for sales leads) > >every ~18 months. > >the same outrage and conversation happens every time. > >the same protection

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread niels=nanog
* morrowc.li...@gmail.com (Christopher Morrow) [Tue 03 Oct 2023, 18:29 CEST]: this sort of thing (provider X scrapes Y and mails Z for sales leads) every ~18 months. the same outrage and conversation happens every time. the same protection mechanisms are noted every time. Is there a reason

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
do we need to keep rediscussing it) On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 11:54 AM Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: > > I believe they got the contact information from ARIN > > I'd suggest everyone use an alias unique to ARIN for your POC and/or public > email.

ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

2023-10-03 Thread Bryan Fields
On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: I believe they got the contact information from ARIN I'd suggest everyone use an alias unique to ARIN for your POC and/or public email. Makes it super simple to verify where it was sourced from. (and yes I've got the same spam) -- Bryan Fields 727

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Collider
hat they needed. The person then replied with a blatant spam, advertising >>Cogent IP services, in violation of the U.S. CAN-SPAM Act’s prohibition >>against deceptive UCE. >> >>I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN >>technical POC i

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Collider
gt;deceptive UCE. > >I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN >technical POC is the only place where my name and the ASN are connected. I >believe this is a violation of Cogent’s contract with ARIN. Does anybody know >how I can effectively report

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Tim Burke
> Other outfits have been spamming using the nanog attendees list, but I guess >> that’s not as bad as the continued scraping of ARIN records, so I won't call >> them out... yet, at least.  >> >> -Original Message- >> From: NANOG On Beha

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mel Beckman
Patrick, It’s a sales pitch, and ARIN acknowledges it violates their terms and has taken action. -mel > On Oct 2, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > >  Has anyone replied? > > If this is a peering request, not sure that is a bad use of the AS

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
using the nanog attendees list, but I guess > that’s not as bad as the continued scraping of ARIN records, so I won't call > them out... yet, at least.  > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mel Beckman > Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 10:28 AM > To: nanog l

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/2/23 22:59, Matthew Petach wrote: Huh? In all my decades of time in the network industry, I have never seen a case where a smaller transit contract had lower per mbit cost than a larger volume contract. I would expect that HE would make *more* money off 10 smaller customer

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Matthew Petach
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 12:14 Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 10/2/23 20:58, Tim Burke wrote: > > > Hurricane has been doing the same thing lately... but their schtick is > to say that "we are seeing a significant amount of hops in your AS path and > wanted to know if you are open to resolve this

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/2/23 20:58, Tim Burke wrote: Hurricane has been doing the same thing lately... but their schtick is to say that "we are seeing a significant amount of hops in your AS path and wanted to know if you are open to resolve this issue". I get what HE are trying to do here, as I am sure

RE: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Tim Burke
er outfits have been spamming using the nanog attendees list, but I guess that’s not as bad as the continued scraping of ARIN records, so I won't call them out... yet, at least.  -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mel Beckman Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 10:28 AM To: nanog lis

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mel Beckman
Jay, Apparently my sarcasm was too subtle :) -mel > On Oct 2, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > On 10/2/23 09:16, Mel Beckman wrote: >> Tom, >> Thanks for that pointer! apparently cogent has a history of abuse. > > Apparently? > > In other news, apparently bears have been using

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 10/2/23 09:16, Mel Beckman wrote: Tom, Thanks for that pointer! apparently cogent has a history of abuse. Apparently? In other news, apparently bears have been using our National Forests as their personal toilets for decades. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mel Beckman
ied with a blatant spam, >> advertising Cogent IP services, in violation of the U.S. CAN-SPAM Act’s >> prohibition against deceptive UCE. >> >> >> I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN >> technical POC is the only place where my n

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mel Beckman
Tom, Thanks for that pointer! apparently cogent has a history of abuse. -mel On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:  complia...@arin.net<mailto:complia...@arin.net> Refer back to an email John Curran sent to this list on Jan 6 2020 , "Suspension of Cogent access to

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mel Beckman
, asking them > what they needed. The person then replied with a blatant spam, advertising > Cogent IP services, in violation of the U.S. CAN-SPAM Act’s prohibition > against deceptive UCE. > > > I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN > techni

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Tom Beecher
complia...@arin.net Refer back to an email John Curran sent to this list on Jan 6 2020 , "Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois" On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:29 AM Mel Beckman wrote: > This morning I received an email from someone at Cogent asking about an > ASN I administer.

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread John Sweeting
against deceptive UCE. I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN technical POC is the only place where my name and the ASN are connected. I believe this is a violation of Cogent’s contract with ARIN. Does anybody know how I can effectively report this to ARIN? I

cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

2023-10-02 Thread Mel Beckman
, advertising Cogent IP services, in violation of the U.S. CAN-SPAM Act’s prohibition against deceptive UCE. I believe they got the contact information from ARIN, because the ARIN technical POC is the only place where my name and the ASN are connected. I believe this is a violation of Cogent’s

Re: Spam from ARIN to POC addresses

2023-09-13 Thread packetcat
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023, at 14:40, John Curran wrote: > Thanks for raising this… here’s how ARIN Meeting Invites are handled – > > A series of announcements about registration and related reminders are > sent to arin-announce and published on www.arin.net, including: >> Registr

Re: Spam from ARIN to POC addresses

2023-09-13 Thread John Curran
On Sep 12, 2023, at 5:56 PM, packetcat wrote: At 14:01 and 14.46 EST I received two identical emails from meeti...@arin-events.net with the subject “Join us for ARIN 52 in October”. One was sent to the NOC POC address and one to the abuse POC address for my ASN. As far as I am aware, I never

Re: Spam from ARIN to POC addresses

2023-09-12 Thread TJ Trout
I can help you get rid of pesky ARIN, let's start a 8.2 transfer! On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 3:00 PM packetcat wrote: > At 14:01 and 14.46 EST I received two identical emails from > meeti...@arin-events.net with the subject “Join us for ARIN 52 in > October”. One was sent to the NOC PO

Re: Spam from ARIN to POC addresses

2023-09-12 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I hope this is not the start of a new pattern of behaviour because that > would not be…good to put it mildly. > What exactly is "not good" about ARIN emailing about the ARIN Public Policy and Members meeting, to email addresses on file related to ARIN assigned reso

Spam from ARIN to POC addresses

2023-09-12 Thread packetcat
At 14:01 and 14.46 EST I received two identical emails from meeti...@arin-events.net with the subject “Join us for ARIN 52 in October”. One was sent to the NOC POC address and one to the abuse POC address for my ASN. As far as I am aware, I never signed up for whatever that mailing list

ARIN Consultation on Automatic Creation of IRR Route Objects

2023-08-10 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - As I noted earlier, we have opened a community consultation seeking input on the desired technical functionality for RPKI ROA / IRR route object integration in the ARIN registry - see the message attached below for details. If you have particular views on this topic, then please

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-10 Thread Mark Kosters
Following up on John Curran's note, we just deployed a new release of ARIN Online at approx. 16:10 UTC today (10 Aug 2023). Here are the release notes: ARIN has completed a new release to pause functionality deployed on 7 August 2023 that creates corresponding IRR Route Objects for every ROA

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-09 Thread John Curran
gth used. In Mark's phrasing, "just have least-specific." MK: I think it was Job that brought it up as a recommendation and glad to hear you agree with him. Ideally, discussion about details such as this should have occurred on some ARIN technical mailing list in the months leading up to

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-09 Thread Mark Kosters
] objects created should not depend on the maxlength used. In Mark's phrasing, "just have least-specific." MK: I think it was Job that brought it up as a recommendation and glad to hear you agree with him. Ideally, discussion about details such as this should have occurred on some ARIN te

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-09 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
used. In Mark's phrasing, "just have least-specific." Ideally, discussion about details such as this should have occurred on some ARIN technical mailing list in the months leading up to ARIN deploying this change to production. Thanks. Jay B.

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-08 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
nore what they don't recognize anyway. ARIN could mimick this practise. See the following example: $ whois -h rr.ntt.net -- '-s RPKI -T route6 2001:67c:208c::/48' \ | egrep "route6|max-length|origin" | paste - - - route6: 2001:67c:208c::/48 max-length: 48 origin: AS0

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-08 Thread Mark Kosters
Hi Job Answers below starting with MK: On 8/7/23, 7:31 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Job Snijders via NANOG" mailto:arin@nanog.org> on behalf of nanog@nanog.org > wrote: - is the IRR state directly derived from the RPKI state? MK: No. This is all done in software.

Re: Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-07 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
Dear John, ARIN, NANOG, On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 06:24:09PM +, John Curran wrote: > We have made some fairly significant changes for those customers using > ARIN Online for routing security administration – see attached message > for specifics. Yes, significant changes! I very much a

Changes to ARIN Online - Routing Security Dashboard - RPKI & IRR integration (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

2023-08-07 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - We have made some fairly significant changes for those customers using ARIN Online for routing security administration – see attached message for specifics. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers Begin forwarded message: From: ARIN

Apply Today for the ARIN 52 Fellowship Program

2023-07-18 Thread John Sweeting
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Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-17 Thread John Curran
On Jul 16, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Randy Bush wrote: … and see if we can round off the rough edges where they got caught. To that end, the “IPv6 fee waiver” text on the fee schedule has been expanded to more fully explain its operation. From

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-16 Thread Randy Bush
> #define SOAPBOX > > Please remember ARIN covers more than just the relatively prosperous > United States. There are places like Jamaica, which are also in the > ARIN region, where the average annual income is $2,337. indeed i find this thread to be depressing. the econom

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-16 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 2:09 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > This screams of entitlement. If you can't afford $250 a year for ARIN, you > probably shouldn't be starting a new business. Sorry > #define SOAPBOX Darin, Please remember ARIN covers more than just the relatively prosperous Unit

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-16 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 8:57 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > There is no possible way that anyone should interpret > the current wording of the asterisk'd text as ALL IPv6 > fees are waived until 2026. None. If that's your take > away, I'm not sure what to say. Hi Tom, I think the point is that

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-15 Thread Tom Beecher
in the chart above the wording on the fee waiver. What do you mean you 'weren't fully versed' on the levels? They are right there! Looking at the ARIN website and fee schedule, I see there is a blurb at the > bottom of the RSP Categories and Fees about IPv6 fees being waived until > Decemb

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-14 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 7/14/23 4:05 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: This screams of entitlement. If you can't afford $250 a year for ARIN, you probably shouldn't be starting a new business. Sorry Why do you assume that I was even thinking about cost. I was talking purely about understanding and how it could go either

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-14 Thread Robert Webb
Where did I EVER say I couldn't afford it and wasn't going to pay. Please quit assuming!! On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 5:07 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > This screams of entitlement. If you can't afford $250 a year for ARIN, you > probably shouldn't be starting a new business. Sorry > > On

Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

2023-07-14 Thread Matt Erculiani
> If you can't afford $250 a year for ARIN, you probably shouldn't be starting a new business. That seems a little tone deaf and extremely insensitive to a lot of non-profit organizations who fight for every penny they can. -Matt On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 3:06 PM Darin Steffl wr

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