AWS GeoDNS and Routing...

2019-11-08 Thread John Von Essen
If anyone from AWS Networking Engineering is here, it would be great if you could chime in. I work for a very large search engine, hosted in AWS. Right around Oct 31st/Nov 1st, we noticed a significant change/re-routing of traffic that normally goes to Virginia to either California or Europe. A

Re: Yahoo/Oath GeoDNS Issue (AS36647)

2019-03-17 Thread Mehmet Akcin
I have notified people who is working on this. On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 07:21 John Von Essen wrote: > If anyone from Yahoo/Oath is here, please email me off-list. Have a > GeoDNS issue with yahoo API URLs in Australia, DNS results are returning > IPs that are not ideal for the region

Yahoo/Oath GeoDNS Issue (AS36647)

2019-03-17 Thread John Von Essen
If anyone from Yahoo/Oath is here, please email me off-list. Have a GeoDNS issue with yahoo API URLs in Australia, DNS results are returning IPs that are not ideal for the region (like on the other side of the world), it so bad (excess latency), we have to override them locally which I really

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-04-14 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 3/21/13, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Does it sound too complicated and pointy? Yes, it's not exactly > trivial, and not as good as BGP, but better than having 300ms latency > from a simple round-robin. It sounds like you are asking about Geolocation, when what you really want is latency-b

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-04-14 Thread Eric Adler
enin wrote: > Dear NANOG@, > > Not every operator has the ability to setup their own anycast. > > Not every operator is big enough to be paying 25 USD/month for a > managed GeoDNS solution, just to get their hands on GeoDNS. (Hey, for > 25$/mo, I might as well have an extra POP

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-04-11 Thread Landon Stewart
ttps://github.com/blblack/gdnsd > - GeoDNS - https://github.com/abh/geodns > > I use the latter for the www.pool.ntp.org service where it sends users > to one of about 4000 local servers ("pops") in about 100 countries > about 15 billion times a month. I haven't don

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-04-11 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
lots of options that might be "good enough": - PowerDNS has a Geo backend - http://doc.powerdns.com/html/geo.html - There are various patches for Bind - Gdnsd - https://github.com/blblack/gdnsd - GeoDNS - https://github.com/abh/geodns I use the latter for the www.pool.ntp.org service wh

Re: GeoDNS

2013-03-21 Thread Marco Davids
Op 21-03-13 15:48, kg9020 schreef: > Hello > > Have you tried > > https://github.com/blblack/gdnsd Or maybe https://github.com/miekg/geodns, if you are into Go. Here it an be seen 'in action': http://dns-status.ntppool.org/# -- Marco smime.p7s Descriptio

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Josh Hoppes
> But what I don't understand is why everyone implies that the status > quo with round-robin DNS is any better. I don't think anyone believes round robin DNS records is better. It's that attempting to do better requires adding onto or changing standards that must maintain backwards compatibility a

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Barry Shein
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Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Dave Sparro
On 3/21/2013 12:39 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: But what I don't understand is why everyone implies that the status quo with round-robin DNS is any better. C. Doesn't the Happy Eyeballs address selection algorithm work even when all the potential address are on the same network (be it IP

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 21 March 2013 05:23, Graham Beneke wrote: > On 21/03/2013 09:23, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: >> On 20 March 2013 21:29, Masataka Ohta >> wrote: >>> Constantine A. Murenin wrote: >>> Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact location of the user, often with s

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/21/13 9:27 AM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 21 March 2013 04:36, Masataka Ohta wrote: Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Are you suggesting that geolocation is inaccurate enough to misplace Europe with Asia? Yes, of course. Think mobile. Why are you insisting that mobile will have wron

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 21 March 2013 04:36, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > >> Are you suggesting that geolocation is inaccurate enough to misplace >> Europe with Asia? > > Yes, of course. > > Think mobile. Why are you insisting that mobile will have wrong geolocation? Yes, there are cases wh

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:23 AM, "Constantine A. Murenin" wrote: >>> Why is there no way to do any of this? >> >> Because it is impractical to assume an IP address can be mapped >> uniquely to a geolocation. > > Why is it impractical? If I have a server in Germany and in Quebec, > why would it b

GeoDNS

2013-03-21 Thread kg9020
; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight? > (Constantine A. Murenin) > 2. Re: routing table g

Fwd: Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Masataka Ohta
Arturo Servin wrote: > Just go to an IETF meeting and you will be placed all around the globe. > It is a corner case, but it shows some deficiencies in the current approach. It should also be noted that network addresses for NANOG meetings may also be located somewhere in , though not world

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Tony Finch
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > peice of cake. add loc records to your rrset. You need something more sophisticated than that because for a single domain name you can't say which LOC records correspond to which address records. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ Forties,

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-03-21, at 02:55, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > What I want is an ability to specify multiple A and records, and > their locations, and make it possible for the web-browser to > automatically select the best location based on the presumed location > of the user. I understand that

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Arturo Servin
On 21/03/2013 04:23, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Are you suggesting that geolocation is inaccurate enough to misplace > Europe with Asia? Yes, sometimes very inaccurate. Just go to an IETF meeting and you will be placed all around the globe. It is a corner case, but it shows

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Graham Beneke
On 21/03/2013 09:23, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > On 20 March 2013 21:29, Masataka Ohta > wrote: >> Constantine A. Murenin wrote: >> >>> Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact >>> location of the user, often with street-level accuracy. >> >> If you think mobile, they

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Masataka Ohta
Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Are you suggesting that geolocation is inaccurate enough to misplace > Europe with Asia? Yes, of course. Think mobile. Masataka Ohta

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:23:02AM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > On 20 March 2013 21:29, Masataka Ohta > wrote: > > Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > > >> Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact > >> location of the user, often with street-level accuracy. > > > >

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Simon Lyall
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Why is it impractical? If I have a server in Germany and in Quebec, why would it be impractical to have the logic in place such that European visitors would be contacting the server in Germany, and visitors from US/Canada -- the one in Quebec?

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 20 March 2013 21:29, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > >> Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact >> location of the user, often with street-level accuracy. > > If you think mobile, they don't, especially because "often" is > not at all "enough time

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 20 March 2013 20:57, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/20/13 8:28 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: >> >> Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact >> location of the user, often with street-level accuracy. It should be >> possible to say that you have a server in Fremont, CA

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:55:41PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > On 20 March 2013 20:43, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:28:23PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > >> Any plans to make DNS itself GeoDNS-friendly? > > > > No. And

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 20 March 2013 20:43, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:28:23PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: >> Any plans to make DNS itself GeoDNS-friendly? > > No. And I say this as someone working for a vendor that provides that > service. > > Any s

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Masataka Ohta
Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact > location of the user, often with street-level accuracy. If you think mobile, they don't, especially because "often" is not at all "enough times". > Why is there no way to do any of this? Because i

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread shthead
You can set up GeoDNS without anycast with PowerDNS and Bind easily enough (I found PowerDNS easier to setup). If you are using Bind you can use the geoip patch or use views which is a quick hacky way. http://doc.powerdns.com/html/geo.html I can't comment on either solution if it sup

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/20/13 8:28 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > Why even stop there: all modern browsers usually know the exact > location of the user, often with street-level accuracy. It should be > possible to say that you have a server in Fremont, CA and Toronto, ON > or Beauharnois, QC, and automatic

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Masataka Ohta
Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Why so many years after the concept has been introduced and has been > found useful, can one not setup GeoDNS in under 5 minutes on one's own > infrastructure, or use GeoDNS from any of the plentiful free or > complementary DNS solutions th

RE: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Rocca
The first hit on Google for "dns geolocation" results in http://backreference.org/2010/02/01/geolocation-aware-dns-with-bind/, or the first hit for "dns geolocation patch" leads you to http://www.caraytech.com/geodns/ -Original Message- From: Constantine A. M

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:28:23PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Any plans to make DNS itself GeoDNS-friendly? No. And I say this as someone working for a vendor that provides that service. Any sort of "Geo" DNS is what protocol people would call a "stupid DNS tr

Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-20 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
Dear NANOG@, Not every operator has the ability to setup their own anycast. Not every operator is big enough to be paying 25 USD/month for a managed GeoDNS solution, just to get their hands on GeoDNS. (Hey, for 25$/mo, I might as well have an extra POP or two!) Why so many years after the